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Mar 31, 2014

A Guatemalan is shot and killed in the Chiquibul

Tonight, there is a significant setback to what has been called a revisiting of confidence-building measures between Belize and Guatemala. News Five has been able to confirm that a high-level meeting scheduled for Sunday in Antigua, Guatemala was postponed following a shooting incident within the Chiquibul National Park on Saturday. There has been no comment from official sources, but both a government release and Police report confirm that on Saturday evening at around four-twenty, a Guatemalan national was shot and killed during a shootout with B.D.F. personnel in the Chiquibul National Park.

The report from Police states that the incident occurred three point four kilometres within Belizean territory in the Chiquibul in an area called Cebada Camp. A joint forestry, Police and B.D.F. patrol encountered armed male individuals, and when those persons were ordered to halt, they instead opened fire. Members of the Belize patrol returned fire, and twenty-six year old Tomas Desdicho Ramirez, a resident of San Marcos in the municipality of Dolores, was fatally hit in the chest, the abdomen and right leg. According to that report, the members of the patrol retrieved a shotgun from Ramirez at the site, and also found a plastic bag containing one hundred and seventy-one grams of cannabis seeds. News Five has learnt that minutes before the shooting, the joint patrol uprooted a small marijuana field of about forty to fifty plants measuring between two to four feet in height. The body of Ramirez was brought out of the Chiquibul Sunday morning to the San Ignacio Hospital.

A joint release from the governments of Belize and Guatemala is significantly longer and packed full of diplo-speak. It states that both Prime Minister Dean Barrow and Guatemalan President Otto Perez have spoken by telephone. The eight point document makes clear that the government will investigate the incident and justice will be meted out if necessary. Guatemala has been invited to participate in the autopsy and to support the investigation, and the support of the O.A.S. has been requested in that regard.

The release ends with a mutual declaration of commitment to the maintenance of peace and the promotion of friendly relations between citizens of both countries.

The meeting in Antigua, with the attendance of a fourteen member Belizean delegation led by Foreign Ministry C.E.O., Alexis Rosado, was set up to strengthen bipartisan relations as outlined in a Road Map and Plan of Action signed in January, 2014. Tonight there is no word on a new date for that session.

On a related note, Guatemala’s Prensa Libre Newspaper is reporting that two farmers, Thomas and Feliciano Ramirez, were attacked by a Belizean patrol for no reason. Their headline article states that the so-called attack happened in San Marcos in Guatemala, and the two farmers were innocently clearing land to plant corn.

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8 Responses for “A Guatemalan is shot and killed in the Chiquibul”

  1. Fernando says:

    Guatemalans really suck at shooting. They always shoot first and miss the target. I don´t know why Guatemala complains, it is clear that it is always in self defense that the soldiers kill the “illegal aliens”. Ha!

  2. Teddy Steinway says:

    Otto Perez has softened his machismo on Belize since the Americans announced that he is a war criminal.

  3. Belize we Care says:

    An yr and change one of my very good friend was killed over Guatemala ( melchor to be more specific) did dean borrow and Otto Perez Molina extended any conolences to the family? Did they said they’ll investigate deeply whAt happened and will deal to who so ever did it according to the law??? NO…now wah Guatemalan got killed at belizean territory and dean borrow gan all out fi investigate what really happened and punish who did it??? Really this is pass Mada Rass now…belizeans getting killed over Guatemala means nothing to our government? En k pais vivimos Dios Mio.

  4. CEO says:

    If Guatemala would stop teaching its citizens that Belize is theirs and to respect the border perhaps much of this mess would stop.

    If they would have better land distribution program legitimate farmers will have no need to come across the border to farm Belizean soil.

  5. alejandro says:

    time fuh mek guatemala tek ova. yap.

  6. very concerned! says:

    Guatemala should take care of their people. You don’t see Belizeans going across to Guatemala to plant and pan for Gold or even do illegal logging since Guatemala doesn’t have any of those resources. They need from us we don’t need from them at all.

  7. Lowjack says:

    You know, is not smart to discriminate. We are belizeans
    and most of us are from Hispanic roots and i know they are
    Guatemala people, but still a lot of us going buy to melchor
    or chetumal, see we need each other, and there is people
    from both countries that say the same, but shits happens
    and i never was there to say what happens, neither any of you
    there’s a lots of people that traffic drugs, sell and consumes
    that trash, the soldiers defend theirself but remember they
    are people too, not only us,belizeans.

  8. Voluteer BDF Soldier says:

    Guatemalan are so stubborn and ignorant. They think that they can step foot on our land, illegally and doing illegal activities. Once a BDF encounters any civilian within thier patrol, before they approch them they would surround them. This simply means that once fire is by the civilian towards the BDF then that civilian is dead, bcuase we are not trianed to injured we are trianed to kill wt one shot. We are never the one to fire 1st, we always aprouch in a peaceful manner.

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