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Oct 11, 2013

ComPol says Penner not under investigation

Former Minister of State Elvin Penner is not the subject of any investigation, administrative or criminal. That was confirmed today by Commissioner of Police Allen Whylie. It’s a stunning revelation. It was announced that the Police entered the picture on Tuesday at four thirty. Since then the media has been trying to find out if Elvin Penner will be a person of interest in that investigation. He is the man who made a false declaration which paved the way for a Belizean passport to be issued to Wonhong Kim. As a Minister of State, Penner’s signature is on a nationality certificate issued to Kim. Both Prime Minister Dean Barrow and Minister of Immigration Godwin Hulse have indicated that the police investigation will look at everything and everybody involved in the scandal. But both have skillfully stopped just short of saying that the investigation will also look at Penner. The bottom line, it seems at least for now, is that Elvin Penner will come out of this matter criminally unscathed. The administrative investigation is concluded, and he escaped any scrutiny at all. And now, the police investigation is not looking at Penner. It’s an intricate mix of misinformation, repeated for public attention at the press conference where Director of Immigration Maria Marin claimed that the Police were brought in at the end of the administrative investigation. In fact, they were brought in to investigate files missing at the nationality section…files which were brought to light by attorney Arthur Saldivar. Minister of Immigration Godwin Hulse claims that the directive to the Police will not come from him, but then who did it come from?

 

Maria Marin – Director of Immigration

Maria Marin

“Basically upon conclusion of our administrative investigation we felt that it was necessary for the Police to come in and look at what we had there. So that was basically the basis upon which they came in. Further questions that needed that type of expertise.”

 

Reporter

“Mrs. Saldivar, you were quite open in pointing out that you all are preparing the file right now as part of this administrative investigation and you all are putting together the files on the three officers. Does Mister Penner’s name come up anywhere in there because you were able to say about the three, but I heard nothing about Mister Penner.”

 

Candelaria Saldivar, C.E.O., Ministry of Immigration

“Mr. Penner is not a part of the public service and he is not guided under the public service regulation and under my supervision.”

 

Candelaria Saldivar

Reporter

“So the investigation that has been going on for the past nineteen, twenty days has not touched on Mister Penner?”

 

Candelaria Saldivar

“Not for my part, no.”

 

Reporter

“So Minister Hulse, could you tell us about the investigation that has gotten underway. Has there been a specific directive as to…I know you said no holds bar. But that is a little different thing from saying investigate everything including the involvement of former minister of state Elvin Penner and that sort of thing. Could you tell us about the investigation?”

 

Godwin Hulse, Minister of Immigration

Godwin Hulse

“I don’t really know what part you don’t understand. We said the FIU is in there; the FIU is no holds barred. The Police is in there; the police has no holds barred. That directive doesn’t come from me.”

 

Allen Whylie, Commissioner of Police

“Police have launched an investigation in respect to the issues of the Nationality Section pertaining to the certificates that were seen on the TV.”

 

Reporter

“So would that then indicate that you’re looking at Mr. Saldivar? Are you looking at Mr. Penner? What exactly is the investigation looking at in this point in time?”

 

Allen Whylie

“As I said it’s looking at the Nationality Section so it would have to be the missing files.”

 

Reporter

“As well when he spoke to the media a couple days ago Mr. Arthur Saldivar suggested or indicated that there was a search warrant issued and in fact he was being sought. Is that so?”

 

Allen Whylie

Allen Whylie

“No warrant has been issued by the Police to date.”

 

Reporter

“Obviously Mr. Saldivar is in possession of the files that the Police are looking for so is it fair to assume that eventually you will be looking at him?”

 

Allen Whylie

“Well I know that the Police had gone to his office or the office that he used to use to speak to him but they were not able to locate him. But I think that he has indicated that he willing to hand over the files and I think that is the reason the Police went to locate him. I think since then there has been some contact with him in the investigation. I won’t go into the details of that but he has contacted the Police.”

 

Reporter

“As it relates to Mr. Penner…at this point does he factor into the investigations?”

 

Allen Whylie

“Well as I’ve said the investigation is looking at the issue of the Nationality Section and as the Minister had said sometime earlier this week that they’re doing their internal investigation and he said when they are finished with that if they see anything criminally wrong then they would call in the Police. No complaint has been made to us in terms of that issue.”

 

Reporter

“So you’re saying that at this point in time you’re not looking at Mr. Penner for a criminal offense?”

 

Allen Whylie

“No.”

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25 Responses for “ComPol says Penner not under investigation”

  1. Citizen says:

    Hulse, Candelaria, Barrow and Marin, did you give the correct instruction to the Compol? He is making you guys look bad, by saying that he is not investigating Penner. So do we take it that he is only investigating missing files and the public officers? We knew it all along, and now confirmed! While we are being entertained with the pappy show investigation of missing files, the do not recall Penner campaign will go on.

  2. Concern says:

    Hulse

    “I don’t really know what part you don’t understand. We said the FIU is in there; the FIU is no holds barred. The Police is in there; the police has no holds barred. That directive doesn’t come from me.”

    Hulse you gave no holds barred a different meaning! You are now just as officially deceptive as all the other corrupt ministers, and to think you are also getting AROGANT. Do you think we are that dumb?

  3. Joe Blank says:

    Are there any real men and women left in the Civil Service?? In the civilized world, these people would have tendered their resignations and refused to the part of any COVERUP. Yet they look at us shamelessly and tell us told unadulterated crap. Don’t they know they are just making themselves look like the idiots they are?? Will someone in the civil service show some ba__s!!!

  4. belizeanheat says:

    Well you heard it from the Compol. Apparently it is not a crime to provide false or misleading information on Government documents in Belize no matter what is printed in big bold letters at the bottom.

    I think I will go and apply for a drivers licence using a fake name.
    If anyone questions it, I will say “Well Penner did it” and the PM and the Compol said it’s not a crime.

  5. David says:

    AG, I would like nothing than an open and public debate on the issues that affect the investors of Belize and the people you pawn as slaves/subjects to your party politic, ‘I got mine, screw You mentality’.

    It doesn’t work by design.
    AG, you game?
    I promise to b forthright and honest with my Xchange.
    Could/would you do the same?
    Times ticking…..

    Looking forward.
    Cheers!

  6. Jeez! says:

    Does the U.S. Justice Department and INTERPOL have to monitor, investigate and incarcerate Belize’s politicians and the corrupt public officers who sanction their activities………..YES!!

  7. Karim says:

    PM Barrow and Hulse, how long will you continue this cover up? We are counting the days and holding our breath. Even the COMMISSIONER OF POLICE, HAVE gone to live in a bubble where he see no television news, hear no radio, have no phone…: )… and really don’t know what is happening at all. That is how scarred he is, but he came clean by saying THERE IS NO INVESTIGATION GOING ON IN THE CASE OF PENNER. The ball is not back with you PM to come clean with the Belizean public! SHOW US YOU ARE A BETTER MAN THAN WHAT THE whole world is thinking about you T O D A Y. Start the investigation now, before John and his sister destroy all the evidence. Big mouth wave television station, ALL THIS SHIT IS AT YOUR DOOR. Show us you love Belize much more than your job and stop talking GARBAGE.

  8. macal rivera says:

    WHY DON’T WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THAT PENNER AND LANDY HABET BE INVESTIGATED???

    LANDY HABET NEED TO GIVE THE PEOPLE ACCOUNT OF THE GOVERNMENT REST HOUSE HE STOLE FOR HIMSELF WHEN HE WAS MAYOR!!!!
    THAT REST HOUSE VALUE MILLIONS, SO HOW MUCH YOU PAY FOR THAT LANDY HABET????

    THESE PUP THINK WE DAH FOOL FOOL PEOPLE!!!
    FOOL THE TALK BUT DAH NO FOOL DI LISTEN

  9. Elgin Martinez says:

    Whylie is politically appointed as a result he has to obey his master Barrow.

  10. Beano for ALL says:

    The short list of conspirators to be investigated for crimes against Belize

    Elvin Penner
    Dean Barrow
    Godwin Hulse
    Maria Marin
    Allen Whylie
    Candelaria Saldivar

    The long list is most of GOB. Belizeans you have a bad case of corruption, amputations are needed to get the lice and leeches out.

    The U.S. should reject all Belizean passports, treating them as tools for criminals and terrorists, travel document issued by criminals, not a legitimate country.

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  11. Island Bwai says:

    President Obama need to intervene as this pathetic Prime minister and his 40 thieves are selling our country and visas to terrorist. We don’t want that here. This government administration need to wake up. All these passport and visa scandal are deal gone bad. Wait when the Taliban start coming your government building will be the first they start bombing out. Wake up man,.. The nation need smart people not dumb ass fool like dean barrow, vega, farber, boots, finnegan and penner.

  12. history minded says:

    David – you asking help from the AG? ha. . .

    We in a sad mess..

  13. So Obvious says:

    IF THE POLICE MINISTER IS RALLYING HIS FULL SUPPORT TO THE CROOKED MAN, CAN BELIZE EXPECT TO SEE CRIMINAL CHARGES LEVIED ON THAT CROOK? LOOK OUT TO SEE ARTHUR SALDIVAR BEING HARASSED INSTEAD. BARROW AND GODWIN ADMITTED THAT WRONG WAS DONE BY PENNER. YET THEY ARE SUPPORTING A CROOK TO REMAIN IN GOVERNMENT. THEY SAID THAT THEIR SYSTEM WAS WATER TIGHT. THAT CROOK PENETRATED THE WATER TIGHT SYSTEM. THEY COME UP WITH ANOTHER “WATER TIGHT” SYSTEM. IS IT REALLY WATER TIGHT TO CROOKED MINISTERS? WHAT IS IT THEY ARE TRYING TO HIDE? IS THERE SOMETHING BIGGER TO THIS WHY THE BIG COVER UP? TRYING TO PRESERVE HIS GOVERNMENT. PUP GOT KICKED OUT FOR WRONG DOING AND HE WAS EAGER TO HELP DO SO BY PROCLAIMING CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. BARROW, WHAT U SOW U REAP BREDDA. I DON’T BELIEVE IN HIS SANCTIMONIOUS TALK ANYMORE. HE NO DIFFERENT. JUST LIKE HOW THEY GENERALIZE ALL THE PUP’S AS CROOKS BECAUSE OF ONE, THE SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT THE UDP. SPIT IN D SKY, IT FALL IN U FACE.

  14. Does the PolCom know what he is doing? says:

    What do you think Commissioner of Police Allen Whylie?

    Do you think United Nations Convention Against Corruption will make your work easier in stopping crime in Belize?

    Sign on to the United Nations Convention Against Corruption, a legally binding international anti-corruption act, obliging countries to implement a wide and detailed range of anti-corruption measures affecting their laws, institutions and practices.

    The UNCAC was adopted by the General Assembly of the UN in 2003 and has the participation of over 160 parties.

    And though Belize is a member of the UN (barely), we have yet to sign on the anti-corruption UN tool to crush corruption.

    Every honest Belizean should be willing to personally sign the petition for Belize join the convention and rid our country of this disgrace plague that beset and kills our country.

    GOT TO WONDER…..

    WHY DOES THE UDP OPPOSE THIS?

    Did they not campaign to eliminate corruption in Belize????
    Why would they be opposed to this?
    Could it be they are corrupt, and oppose it because it would stop their stealing?

    Could it be Beano Barrow would go to jail if Belize was part of this?
    Could it be United Nations would help the country of Belize to get rid of these parasites?

    Could it be these ministers would be tried in the World Court of Justice, in the Hague,
    and not by their corrupted friends?

    Hague these mother f…………..

  15. BelizeaninAsia says:

    I’d like to dedicate this song to all the politician/crooks in Belize:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76eZd3FVW9Y&list=PL3C745CE22E66C6FA

    Yeah, this one hot lava

    Yo yo, get the Commissioner (Whylie) on the phone
    Tell ?, line up the revolutionaries y’all

    It’s funny how money change a situation
    Miscommunication lead to complication
    My emancipation don’t fit your equation
    I was on the humble, you – on every station
    Some wan’ play young Lauryn like she dumb
    But remember not a game new under the sun
    Everything you did has already been done
    I know all the tricks from Brix(ton) to Kingston
    My ting done made your kingdom wan’ run
    Now understand L. Boogie non-violent
    But if a thing test me, run for mi gun
    Can’t take a threat to mi newborn son
    L been this way since creation
    A groupie call, you fall from temptation
    Now you wanna ball over separation
    Tarnish my image in your conversation
    Who you gon’ scrimmage, like you the champion
    You might win some but you just lost one

    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one

    Now, now how come your talk turn cold
    Gained the whole world for the price of your soul
    Tryin’ to grab hold of what you can’t control
    Now you’re all floss, what a sight to behold
    Wisdom is better than silver and gold
    I was hopeless now I’m on Hope road
    Every man want to act like he’s exempt
    When him need to get down on his knees and repent
    Can’t slick talk on the day of judgement
    Your movement similar to a serpent
    Tried to play straight, how your whole style bent?
    Consequence is no coincidence
    Hypocrites always want to play innocent
    Always want to take it to the full out extent
    Always want to make it seem like good intent
    Never want to face it when it’s time for punishment
    I know that you don’t wanna hear my opinion
    But there come many paths and you must choose one
    And if you don’t change then the rain soon come
    See you might win some but you just lost one

    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one

    Now don’t you understand man universal law
    What you throw out comes back to you, star
    Never underestimate those who you scar
    Cause karma, karma, karma comes back to you hard
    You can’t hold God’s people back that long
    The chain of Shaitan wasn’t made that strong
    Trying to pretend like your word is your bond
    But until you do right, all you do will go wrong
    Now some might mistake this for just a simple song
    And some don’t know what they have ’til it’s gone
    Now even when you’re gone you can still be reborn
    And, from the night can arrive the sweet dawn
    Now, some might listen and some might shun
    And some may think that they’ve reached perfection
    If you look closely you’ll see what you’ve become
    Cause you might win some but you just lost one

    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one…

  16. BelizeaninAsia says:

    I’d like to dedicate this song to all the politician/crooks in Belize:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76eZd3FVW9Y&list=PL3C745CE22E66C6FA

    Yeah, this one hot lava

    Yo yo, get the Commissioner (Whylie) on the phone
    Tell ?, line up the revolutionaries y’all

    It’s funny how money change a situation
    Miscommunication lead to complication
    My emancipation don’t fit your equation
    I was on the humble, you – on every station
    Some wan’ play young Lauryn(BELIZEANS) like she (THEY) dumb
    But remember not a game new under the sun
    Everything you did has already been done
    I know all the tricks from Brix(ton) (BMP) to Kingston (BZ CITY)
    My ting done made your kingdom wan’ run
    Now understand L. Boogie non-violent
    But if a thing test me, run for mi gun
    Can’t take a threat to mi newborn son
    L been this way since creation
    A groupie call, you fall from temptation
    Now you wanna ball over separation
    Tarnish my image in your conversation
    Who you gon’ scrimmage, like you the champion
    You might win some but you just lost one

    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one

    Now, now how come your talk turn cold
    Gained the whole world for the price of your soul
    Tryin’ to grab hold of what you can’t control
    Now you’re all floss, what a sight to behold
    Wisdom is better than silver and gold
    I was hopeless now I’m on Hope road
    Every man want to act like he’s exempt
    When him need to get down on his knees and repent
    Can’t slick talk on the day of judgement
    Your movement similar to a serpent
    Tried to play straight, how your whole style bent?
    Consequence is no coincidence
    Hypocrites always want to play innocent
    Always want to take it to the full out extent
    Always want to make it seem like good intent
    Never want to face it when it’s time for punishment
    I know that you don’t wanna hear my opinion
    But there come many paths and you must choose one
    And if you don’t change then the rain soon come
    See you might win some but you just lost one

    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one

    Now don’t you understand man universal law
    What you throw out comes back to you, star
    Never underestimate those who you scar
    Cause karma, karma, karma comes back to you hard
    You can’t hold God’s people back that long
    The chain of Shaitan wasn’t made that strong
    Trying to pretend like your word is your bond
    But until you do right, all you do will go wrong
    Now some might mistake this for just a simple song
    And some don’t know what they have ’til it’s gone
    Now even when you’re gone you can still be reborn
    And, from the night can arrive the sweet dawn
    Now, some might listen and some might shun
    And some may think that they’ve reached perfection
    If you look closely you’ll see what you’ve become
    Cause you might win some but you just lost one

    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one
    You might win some but you just lost one…

  17. Guerra says:

    Let’s face reality, P.M. lied to the world, then automatically Hulse and Candelaria, if they want to keep their job will lie too. They were a DISGRACE TO WATCH, as they tried to evade the question, Is Penner included in the investigation? A simple yes or no answer would have been enough, instead of “I don’t really know what part you don’t understand?” We all knew that ALL OF YOU WERE lying to us before the press conference, during the press conference and even up to today! Was just testing to see how HONEST YOU REALLY ARE.

    What kind OF LEADERS ARE YOU?

  18. rudy lambey says:

    The bald head man and his band of thieves strike again, i hope the people of Belize don’t tolerate this b@@lsh@t again .what’s wrong with these politician thinking their above the law the Belizean people need to rise up against these greedy fucking blood suckers….TEK BACK FU WU COUNTRY FROM THES SELL OUTS BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY>>>>> ….power to the people

  19. Louisville,Ky says:

    For those of you too young to remember, let me give you a brief history of Belizean shenanigan.
    When the government changed for the first time in 1984, everybody including the Right Honorable G. Cadle himself, just knew there was going to be an investigation into all the hanky-panky, sweetheart deals and bloated contracts that were the order of the day.
    Low and behold, NOTHING happened as the new administration swept everything under the proverbial rug and thus began the musical chairs of fu you, fu me. fu you, fu me.
    Yes, there are Belizeans left that are still honest to goodness but, they are a dwindling minority. By and large and for the most part, my people are corrupt and rotten to the core. Back in the day travelling thru Mexico, we used to give the Mexicans hell, with they and their mordida. Not wanting to be out done, Belize Kruffy now di seh,….. gimme way!
    Penner was caught with his hand in the cookie jar and is justifiably being vilified, as he is corrupt. But, he is not alone since this culture of malfeasance has now become entwined in the very fabric of the Belizean socio-political landscape.
    Stop pointing fingers folks, and start looking at the man in the mirror. You will be surprised at what you see.

  20. Al Rich says:

    Am I the only person who heard the PM saying that he has heard that visa’s were on sale and that his ministers were taking turns receiving money for such documents. The PM heard this and did nothing about it but to tell the thieves to stop. If he were honest he would have called for an investigation and toss the guilty ones out by the seat of their pants.

    Could it be that the reason he does nothing with this corruption that has been going on for years now in the immigration and passport office is because he is afraid of what he might find. I believe the PM himself has done some underhanded shady deals and cannot anger those who has his secret. He is afraid that he is one person away from his illegal acts being exposed.

    It is never isolated incident when a leader refuses to take the proper action in cases where there is dishonest act going on. The river always run so much deeper the further up stream you go in it. This country poses a threat to the US.

  21. Ricky Malthus says:

    Now you have the insight of all those laws passed recently to to spy on Belizeans and to dispossess them of their wealth through the hereditary trust laws.

  22. BMNJ says:

    Why doesn’t the media go and get some feedback from the US Embassy?

  23. Rufus says:

    Poor Belize. This is the kind of dog and pony show that makes us look like ediots on the international stage. This is the reason why our development is at a ‘bukatora’ pace.

  24. belizean patriot says:

    Ask rene montero. He can tell u exactly da who all ina dis scam and how much dem d mek. The udp know their days are numbered. Even joe and fonso know this. Dean barrow nuh worry as long as he look like d saviour of this nation. He all bout himself.

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