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Aug 7, 2013

Julius Espat pushes motion to restructure Public Accounts Committee

Julius Espat

Another hotly debated motion was presented by Cayo Central Representative, Julius Espat. It dealt with the changes to the composition of the Public Accounts Committee. Prime Minister Dean Barrow last Friday called the motion idiotic; saying he will rain fire and damnation on it. And today, before the House of Representatives, the motion was rejected by the speaker.

 

Julius Espat, Deputy Leader, P.U.P.

“We have presented budgets in the past and we have not had the ability to analyze them. We have had the auditor general’s report in the past and we had no ability to ventilate it. This is a serious issue. All we hear is the bickering back and forth. At the end of the day, there is nothing concrete that we are proposing to be able to change the system so that we can stop what we are doing here. We need to start working for and on behalf of the people of Belize. Whereas the membership of the proposed committee is to consist of seven members—four members from the House of Representatives of which two shall be non-ministers from the government side and two from the members from the opposition; one should chairman of the joint Public Accounts Committee and three, members from the senate to be appointed in accordance with the standing orders of the senate of whom one should be the representative of the Belize Chamber of Commerce and Industry and the Belize Business Bureau and two, one should be representative of the National Trade Union Congress and the Civil Society Steering Committee and the other shall be representative of the Belize Council of Churches and the Evangelical Association of Churches.”

 

Prime Minister Dean Barrow

Dean Barrow

“I would have to say that I cannot conceive of a father encountering a more wayward, recalcitrant child that the member of Cayo South. Again to stretch the analogy…I would go so far as to describe him as a delinquent. And if I were his real father and he were a real child, I would put him in hostel…or what dah the answer for the hostel now…the Youth Cadet Core. Mister Speaker I am very sorry, this motion is entirely and wholly   misconceived, shot through with procedural and substantive errors from beginning to end. And I, after I’m finished speaking will ask you for a ruling Mister Speaker because it is my submission that it is out of order and has to fall without the merits of the motion being debated. On the committees of the House or of the Senate in the U.S., the balance of members shall reflect the party balance in the chamber. This is democracy. When you hear about the committee of the senate on the army forces, the judiciary committee, the intelligence committee…go and check. The preponderance or the majority of the members on all those committees are drawn from the Democratic Party because that is the majority party in the senate.”

 

Francis Fonseca, Leader of the Opposition

“If the member for Queen’s Square is objecting to the motion, let him do so and be specific. Be specific in your objection to the motion. This motion enjoys the support of the Belizean people. If you believe that it is fundamentally flawed then bring your objections to the House and let us fix it. He is engaging in a debate Mister Speaker. There is a process you follow when a motion is tabled. Mister Speaker, you know that very well.”

 

Michael Peyrefitte, Speaker of the House

“There is a process you must follow when a motion is taken and I can tell you from now and the member for Cayo South did not follow that process.”

 

Francis Fonseca

Francis Fonseca

“You authorized him to do so. The member for Queen’s Square is usurping your function.”

 

Michael Peyrefitte

“So then member, do you want me to rule now without even having to hear from the Prime Minister? Because to tell you the truth member, the Prime Minister didn’t need to speak. I already know based on what is happening here what will be my decision. I already know.”

 

Julius Espat

“This motion will not go away. So let the Prime Minister join us to find a way to do it his way so that it can benefit the people of Belize.”

 

Michael Peyrefitte

“You can carry it on as long as you want, but let me tell you something…the National Assembly is not a testing ground to see where…”

 

Julius Espat

“Well the people of Belize are dying because you don’t allow them to get true representation for them; that is the problem. We cannot send our children to school and if we do not realize that problem, then we are wasting our time.”

 

Francis Fonseca

“Can we agree that there is a need for us to reform the Public Accounts Committee because my sense is that there is a general perception among the Belizean people that there is a need for such reform? And the question is how do we move forward. If the prime minister and his government is saying no; we are happy with the current status and structure of the public accounts committee—there is no need for change—well then that will be the end of the debate. But if there is the motion, the objective of the motion is to put on the table the need for reform and we are prepared to work with the government to achieve that reform.” 

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6 Responses for “Julius Espat pushes motion to restructure Public Accounts Committee”

  1. Citizen says:

    The UDP have 16 elected persons in the house of representatives, now they have 17 representatives with the additional unelected representative in the person of the speaker of the house. The speaker was at his best on a debating match with the opposition when the honorable speaker should be there to keep the peace, not to be arguing in out-burst after outburst. Michael said the Prime Minister didn’t need to speak because he (speaker) already knew what will be his decision. Well the PM beat him to it because the PM told the nation what would actually be the decision and so it was as officially proclaimed by Michael. This is a sick dictatorship! Total disrespect to the people who care not, on section this and that of the standing orders, regulations etc. etc. The people want this Government and all subsequent Governments of Belize to account to the people how they are spending the tax payers money and how they are managing our natural resources (Rosewood, Oil, Chiquibul, NCL Lands) etc. etc. etc.

  2. macal rivera says:

    BWAY JULIUS, YOU ARE A BIG JACKASS, FOOL THE TALK BUT DAH NO FOOL THE LISTEN,
    HOW IN THE WORLD YOU UNDERESTIMATE THE INTTELIGENCE OF THE BELIZEAN PEOPLE, YOU FOOLISH MAN??? LEOPARDS CAN’T CHANGE THEIR SPOT, SAME WITH YOU AND YOUR WAGON OF ALI BABBAS BETTER KNOWN AS PUP PARTY!!!!!

    THE BELIZEAN PEOPLE WANT ACOUNTABILTY FROM GEROGE PRICE, SAID MUSA TIMES AND UDP TIMES, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, SO NO TRY FOOL WE, SAYING YOU ARE A HUMBLE SERVANTS, THAT IS BS JULIUS, YOU KNOW JESUS SPOKE ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU, JULIUS YOU ARE IIKE A TOMB, ALL PRETTY OUTSIDE BUT STINK AND ROTTEN INSIDE.

    BWAY PLEASE STOP MAKE WE PARTY LOOK BAD NO MAN, WITH YOUR VIPER TONGUE!!!
    AGAIN I WANT TO REMIND YOU, “FOOL THE TALK BUT DAH FOOL THE LISTEN”

  3. Concern says:

    We were waiting to hear the words, Julius your ideas to improve the Public Accounts Committee are good, but it needs improvement, and since we want to show the people we are serious about serving them, we will work with you to improve it! Instead this guy went off like a total jackass.

  4. Concern says:

    If government serious about helping the people they would support Espat’s motion by helping.

  5. Love says:

    Lawyers fight cases on a % of the value. It could be five or ten percent, so we have to understand when the PM said he will see to it that Espat’s motion never see the light of day. Remember Ashcroft said BTL was worth 600 million dollars. So If ex wife or brother Barrow was fighting that case, on behalf of government for a measly 5% of that value, win loose or draws, that would amount to $30,000,000.00 in payment. One case thirty million $$$! Litigation cost government money, but it enriches others legally, hence the famous words BRING IT ON! We don’t want this kind of information to reach the light of day, so HOW DARE Espat to want to enlighten the public by saying we have presented budgets in the past and we have not had the permission to analyze them. We have had the auditor general’s report in the past and we are not allowed to ventilate it. Hence the Prime Minister Dean last Friday called the Espat’s motion idiotic; saying he will rain fire and damnation on it! Smart MAN!!! LOL Wouldn’t we all agree he is? I mean wouldn’t we rain fire and damnation on him too?

  6. Concern says:

    No wonder the only good lawyers to fight cases on behalf of Government is ex wife and brother! Belize don’t have any other good lawyers..lol Yeah Right! Like we believe you. Just think about the many government cases they have on their plate. We need to be CONCERN!

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