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May 10, 2013

UNIBAM says it wants same sex activity legalized

Caleb Orozco

But even as the case wraps up, there is still confusion in many quarters on what exactly the claimant wants done to section fifty-three which penalizes persons who engage in carnal knowledge against the order of nature with a ten year prison term. According to propaganda and ads from the churches and other groups, Orozco is asking for section fifty-three to be struck out completely, which means that there would be a vacuum left in terms of unnatural crimes including molestation of children. But in court, lead counsel for the claimant, Christopher Hamel-Smith, seemed to be asking for section fifty-three to be amended only to the extent that consensual sex between two adults of the same sex would not be illegal. News Five asked both Courtenay and Hamel-Smith for a clarification on that issue.

 

Eamon Courtenay, Attorney for the Churches

Eamon Courtenay

“The reason why you are not clear about it is because their case isn’t clear. And I pointed it out to the Chief Justice. In fact, they have presented the court with four options. The one that they have not presented the court with is striking down section fifty-three completely. Once that is off the table, the question is what types of sexual practices are constitutional and what are not. And that is why they have to give the court four options to choose from. And the point that we are making is once you move away from the absolute challenge to section fifty-three and say to the court I am giving you a menu; and the example I gave to the court is that this is a very nice rib eye steak and I di give you how you want it: rare, you want it medium rare, you want it medium well or well done. They are giving four options to the Chief Justice asking him to choose how he likes his steak. The constitution precludes that type of constitution by a court. They should take those four options to the government, to the legislature, and say we advocate for one or two or whichever and have the legislature choose it. So I think their case is fundamentally flawed by contending that the court has an option; that the court can choose which steak it likes. That is not how our democracy works.”

 

Christopher Hamel-Smith

Christopher Hamel-Smith, Attorney for the Claimant

“I think we’ve made that very clear from the first day. What we are asking is very clear. We are saying that section fifty-three of the act is inconsistent with the constitution to the extent, but only to the extent that it applies to consenting sex between adults in private. And that we are not asking for anything further than that.  So we are simply saying that the constitution requires that any law inconsistent with the constitution be void to the extent of that inconsistency. So it only reaches to the question of consenting adult sex in private—no more, no less.”

 

Mike Rudon

“Will the Supreme Court be able to touch just that section? How would they go about doing that; just touch that section without affecting the rest of it?”

 

Christopher Hamel-Smith

“They do that by being the Supreme Court. So they can say what the law is. Is they simply declare as a matter of law in Belize that section fifty-three is void to the extent that it might otherwise have affected sex between adults consenting in private. Because they are the supreme court, they can tell you what the law does and doesn’t do.”

 

News Five tried to get comment from Deputy Solicitor General Nigel Hawke, who presented the case on behalf of the Attorney-General. He would not speak on the case, but did take the time to commend his team for their dedication and the work which went into a very spirited argument from the state. He maintained also that the crux of the argument is that the Supreme Court is not the proper forum for the matter to be addressed. And as we said earlier, a decision is expected by July.

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11 Responses for “UNIBAM says it wants same sex activity legalized”

  1. Liberty & Freedom says:

    No, UNIBAM wants to start off their worldwide agenda in Belize as two adults having sex with the same sex partners. That happens now in the privacy of homes in Belize. Caleb is living proof that it does. Has he ever been arrested for sodomy? UNIBAM wants same sex with adults and children. nambla.org proves my point. Is that being a homophobe? Certainly not – I personally do not care what homosexuals do except where it involves children. And also “leave my @$$ alone, too!”

  2. Right Living in Belize says:

    Caleb Orozco and the homosexual community are really operating from fear. They fear that the law in Belize will start to prosecute them for practicing sodomy in this country where it states ‘any unnatural act will be punishable by law (paraphrasing here). Since they drew attention to the law, the law should now take effect and start arresting the sodomites!

  3. Right Living in Belize says:

    We still say NO to the changing or amending of the Section 53 law in the Country of Belize. Caleb Orozco and the homosexual community are really operating from fear. They fear that the law in Belize will start to prosecute them for practicing sodomy in this country where it states ‘any unnatural act will be punishable by law (paraphrasing here). Since they drew attention to the law, the law should now take effect and start arresting the sodomites!

  4. Justice says:

    Since UNIBAM and Caleb Orozco brought up the issue and want to deal with Section 53, let us deal with it. The law says unnatural acts are punished by our laws. So let the Belizean authority start dealing with the sodomites and start arresting them. They have admitted that they are unnatural by their own mouths!

  5. Severo Rodriguez says:

    If I am the owner of property and house, can my ex-wife take out an injunction for me not toselllthe house and property?????

  6. Severo Rodriguez says:

    If I am the owner of property and house, can my ex-wife take out an injunction for me not to sell the house and property?

  7. Storm says:

    Beware the homosexual agenda, it’s solidly within the UN agencies that deal with education, and it can be seen in the States, where in many places children as young as kindergarten are told the “proper way to use a condom,” that all sexual practices are equal [the Bible says they're not, and that's how I raise my child!].

    Do you want Belize to be re-colonized, this time by foreign homosexual groups forcing their will and ways on us and our children?

  8. jag says:

    Homosexuality should not be tolerated in our beautiful Jewel. These people are a disgrace to our human society. We might not be perfect but going against the nature of God, its a humongous sin. Read the Bible and you know how God Condemns these type of acts. They claim to be Born like that, but its not true, God would never make something or someone imperfect. These people do not have a bit of shame that is why they turn like that. NO to UNIBAM.

  9. moses EX PC says:

    There are many types of homosexuals. In my line of work, i had the opportunity of interviewing many. The bottom line is whther they were born with the defect or the behavior was learned, they can’t help themselves. There are some who understand their preference but choose to be abstinent. There are butch queens, drag queens , chicken hawks, so forth and so on. The common denominator is that most are promiscuous and polygamous.with multi partners with objectives of blowing as many men as they can. Some have parties and share multiple partners. few are monogamous.. Many like young boys and recruit with money and gifts. Its a complex life style. They claim that they cannot help how they feel. Some are obsessed with sex and flaunt their preference. By the comments on this forum, most Belizeans would prefer that they keep their business to themselves. What people object to, is to accept and make legal their actions as being normal. It is against nature for a man and man to sleep. Period. If you feel otherwise, like the chiney man say, something wong.. Lets hear from some homos on this forum defending their position.

  10. Initiate says:

    Proud 2b Belizean says:
    May 10, 2013 at 10:19 am
    I believe Ravi Zacharias has a great response to the being born gay comments earlier.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIw6ngIqaD0

  11. instructed says:

    HI guys my take on this is that we as a nation shouldnt tolerate Orosco and this Homosexual friends to even take this matter to our courts but to arrest them and put them away for good

  12. suicide7 says:

    Leviticus 20:13
    “If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.”

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