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May 8, 2013

The faithful and the gay fight over poll

And while taking issue with homosexuals who want to have their cake and eat it too, Pastor Louis Wade took issue with our online poll which is an unscientific measure of public opinion. The question this week was ‘Do you support the decriminalization of sodomy,’ and the response has been overwhelming; at news time over thirty-two thousand votes were registered. But Wade says he has evidence that Caleb Orozco and the homosexual community have found some way to manipulate the poll in their favor. But representatives for Orozco levied the very same accusation against Wade and the Church.

 

Louis Wade, Pastor

“Channel Five has a poll asking about the decriminalization of homosexuality and we have first hand evidence that not only is UNIBAM and their supporters inviting people to vote using the process, but they have also published in their private community exactly how to use the computer to breach the system and create multiple votes.”

 

Mike Rudon

“Mr. Wade it is interesting that you made that point about Mister Orozco and his homosexual community using the computer to beat the polls. His representatives made the exact same accusation against you in particular and members of the church this morning. That you all have found a way to beat the system of the poll.”

 

Louis Wade

Louis Wade

“I was not here, so could you please tell me what Mister Orozco said.”

 

Mike Rudon

“I have not spoken to Mister Orozco.”

 

Louis Wade

“But then let’s not discuss it.”

 

Mike Rudon

“We have to discuss it. They have made an accusation…”

 

Louis Wade

“So what is the accusation?”

 

Mike Rudon

“I will tell you if you give me a chance. They are saying that you, your group, your followers, your supporters, members of the church, have found a way to beat the poll. The exact same accusation that you are making against them, they are making against you.”

 

Louis Wade

“Okay well, let’s see, number one let’s see how the polls go for the Channel Five. Number two, have them produce any kind of evidence and then we will do the same.”

 

As we told you our online polling has been lighting up recording the highest number of votes on any issue. The response has been overwhelming with both sides seeking support. The results have been neck and neck and at other times, the margin has been very slim between the votes for or against the decriminalization of sodomy.

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23 Responses for “The faithful and the gay fight over poll”

  1. markthis says:

    there is no way a true poll on the decriminalization of sodomy would show “neck and neck.” Not in Belize by Belizean voters! the polling is flawed. yesterday’s results show that poll participants are fudging the numbers thru computer savvy. and a lot of heteros are voting “yes” when they mean no because of the way the question was put by Ch5, using the hifalutin world “decriminalization.” A lot of them think decriminalize mean criminalize just like in the 70s when drivers on the road thought inflammable meant not flammable and so the industry had to remove the former from use.

  2. Krtdiaz says:

    Highest poll ever….wade is shown that his chest beating is not for everyone, scientific or not, numbers speak and they spoke loudly against his bigotry.

  3. Not a Christian but still vote 'no' says:

    Must say that the channel 5 website isn’t safe because I can on the otherside of the world and vote. Let this be a Belizean thing. You want votes, go out there and have people put papers in boxes. It would be ‘Stupidity to the next level’ if any body uses this poll to judge

  4. Babs says:

    The poll is not accurate. They were plotting on social media quite openly on how to use different devices (your laptop plus your phone) to cheat the system! Puh-lease polls mean nothing. It’s like saying the contestant that gets the most text votes on a talent show is the best singer. Hell NO. Question is, if either side is so righteous and sure of their position why the need to resort to “cheating” and sneaky ways to beat a poll?? Not so sure of themselves maybe? Hahaaa! Let the soap opera continue……………..

  5. Ian Anderson says:

    a poll is a poll, is a poll, is a poll.. and in the end, who really cares .. but man.. this has really got Junior hot and bothered and all steamed up.. chest beating and all.. but he asks for proof that Action Belize attempted to “beat the poll” to hijack the poll.. well here it is.. we received this email sent out at 11:32 Wednesday morning..

    From: Belize Action [mailto:belizeactiondion@gmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:32 AM
    To: xxxxxxxxx@cxxxxxxxxxx.com
    Subject: Quick Update – ONLINE POLL, VOTE NO NOW!!

    Please Forward To Anyone Concerned About Belize Future!!
    EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!

    Channel 5 News ONLINE POLL – VOTE NOW!!

    Channel 5 News has an online poll asking “Do you support decriminalizing homosexuality?”

    Vote NO to decriminalizing homosexuality in Belize!

    In their previous polls, you can vote again after one hour. So keep checking!!

    Scroll down, it’s at the lower right side.

    http://edition.channel5belize.com/
    —————————————————————————————-

    So Louis Wade Jr.. there is your proof that Belize Action “Hijacked the poll”..

    Finally, the poll was NOT even about “decriminalizing homosexuality” .. man oh man.. are these guys idiots or what?

  6. Belizean Pride says:

    @marktthis

    totally agree with you i did that mistake which i regret to vote on the poll.

  7. PotKettle says:

    It’s obvious from the numbers of votes that both sides are manipulating the poll.

    Also this poll is not about homosexuality, it’s about a sex act.

    A sex act that according to some reports about 44% of straight men, and 36% of straight women participate in.
    http://www.menshealth.com/ripped/nearly-half-straight-men-have-had-anal-sex

    As this poll is being framed as a fight with the religious supposedly voting “no”, it’s also amusing to note sodomy is practiced by some straight religious teens who think that it preserves their virginity.
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/21606.php

  8. Belizean says:

    This poll does not reflect, to any extent, the true opinion of the Belizean public.. I personally have spoken to many Belizeans..NOt one of them is in favor of this Devil stricken topic

  9. Kira says:

    Totally agree with Mark!
    If you read the comments you would definitely know that the people were to actually vote “YES” AND NOT “NO”

  10. Belize2the bone says:

    The faithful vs. the Gay? Ridiculous. I am faithful to God and I voted to decriminalize. I belive that we are all Gods people. Its not God vs. Gays. It people who vote no and people who vote yes. All the hate against homosexuals has got to stop.

  11. TB says:

    “Gay rights” will start to grow like a cancer.. embracing homosexuality is taking a bold stand against what God condemn, the act of homosexuality.
    This is not about human rights, no one can loose their right to be human, and it’s not about love for humanity. NO ONE loves us more than God, yet God condemns homosexuality with complete disgust and hatred. Dice it, Chop it, dissect it, flip it, deny it, whatever you do, you can’t change the truth, and it is not relative, the truth won’t change if you don’t believe it.
    This is not about freedom, because we will never be free to do all that we lust after.
    WARNING Belize, don’t depend on lawyers, judges, vote polls, get on your knees and pray. Clear you heart of all sin that prevents your communication with God and fervently pray.

  12. tanya says:

    BELIZEANS HAVE EVOLVED ESPECIALLY THE NEW GENERATION.. SOON WE OLD PEOPLE WILL MAKE WAY FOR A NEW AGE WHICH CANNOT BE WORST THAN WHAT WE OLDER PEOPLE HAVE MADE IT. GOD ALSO CONDEMN MEN NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND SHOUDL STONE THEM TO DEATH.. THISS LIFESTYLE OF MAKING BABIES AND NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE SHOULD BE AT THE CORE OF DISCUSION AMONG CHURCH AND SOCIETY. LACK OF LOVE CREATES CRIMINALS, POVERTY, GANGS, DRUGADDICTS, UNEDUCATED PEOPLE ETC…. I BELIEVE THE POLL IS RIGHT BECAUSE MANY UNSPOKEN BELIZEANSTHAT HAVE COMMON SENSE HAVE EVOLVED AND DO NOT ACCEPT A BIBLE IN THE FACE WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE DOUBLE STANDARD. RELIGION IS NOT LOSING FOLLOWERS BECAUSE WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD AND NOT GOOOD CITIZENS BUT BECAUSE OF THIS INTOLERANCE AND DOUBLE FACE OF THE CHURCH. SAYING GAY PEOPLE AND THE ABUSE OF CHILDREN IS LAUGHABLE EVEN FOR A 15 YEAR OLD. POLL IS RIGHT ANDD I HAVVE SPOKEN TO MANY ALW ABIDING AND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO BELIEVES TO LEAVE THEM ALONE AND LIVE IN PEACE WITH RIGTS AS EVERY BELIZEAN ANDD LET GOD BE THE JUDGE

  13. tanya says:

    THE POLL MAKES SENSE.. BELIZE IS EVOLVING AND THE NEW GENERATION IS HEADING TOWARDS A NEW AGE AND BELIEVE ME IT CANNOT BE WORST THAN WHERE WE THE OLD PEOPLE HAVE HEADED IT TO. THE CHURCH LOSES CREDIBILITY ALL OVER THE WORLD BECAUSE OF ITS DOUBLE STANDARD AND LIES. TO SAY GAY PEOPLE ABUSE CHILDREN WHEN EVERRYONEE KNOWS INCLUDING MY 14 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER THAT IT IS A LIE. BIBLE IS AGAINST PARENTS NOT LOVING THEIR CHILDREN SINCE THEY BECOME CRIMINALS, PPOOR, UNEDUCATED,, DRUG ADDICTS , GANGS, UNEMPLOYED.. THIS IS DESTROYING THE MORALS OF OUR COUNTRY.. POLLS ARE RIGHT EVEN IF WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT.. MANY BELIZEANS ARE SMARTER THAN WE THINK

  14. Twosweetinez says:

    @Belize2theBone: Having a different view on an issue does not equate to hate

  15. Twosweetinez says:

    @Belize2theBone: Having a different view on an issue does not equate to hate

  16. Leanne Cayetano says:

    Who the hell cares about a damn poll? It is the interpretation of the law that matters. Poll do not interpret nor change laws. Swallow that UNIBAM. Go sodomize the poll.

  17. Leanne Cayetano says:

    Who the hell cares about a damn poll? It is the interpretation of the law that matters. Polls do not interpret nor change laws. Swallow that UNIBAM. Go sodomize the poll.

  18. Storm says:

    @Tanya, I disagree. The morals of our nation are being destroyed, but it’s by immorality, little girls getting pregnant by men they don’t know, who don’t love them, and cannot and will not support them. That perpetuates poverty, and virtual slavery.

    The family is under attack from many directions, television, movies, modern music, the influence of USA and Europe, drugs and drug money. The one institution that generally does not threaten the family are churches [yes, I know there are immoral preachers, but they are the exception], and sadly, churches in the Jewel are stagnant and lazy.

    Where is our Dr. Martin Luther King? Where is our Desmond Tutu? We lack what we desperately need, a righteous Christian leader who will mobilize the people to meet social and political issues and start to fight the cancer that is killing our country. I’d be happy to have a foreign preacher come to mobilize us like that, because the message is the same if it comes from the Word of God.

  19. Syl says:

    I see that over 50,000 votes for Unibam in poll. Are there actually 50,000 gays in Belize? Does this not show the dishonesty and hypocrisy of this whole poll and movement?

  20. BT says:

    @Storm, how wonderful that you ask “Where is our Desmond Tutu”. Rev. Tutu has stated publicly that he does not support criminalization of homosexuality or any other form of discrimination against homosexuals. Where is our Desmond Tutu indeed. Our religious leaders could learn a lot about love from that great man.

  21. GuestK says:

    Or maybe majority of Belizeans aren’t as close-minded as you thought?

  22. FYI says:

    jealous MOFOs can’t you see this case is being watched around the world? Ignorant!!!!!

  23. poll_spmmer says:

    I’ve been spamming the poll by more than 10,000 votes – for NO of course. I’ve seen times when within 10 seconds, the vote for Yes jumps by 300 votes. The poll is TOTAL NON-SENSE.

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