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Jan 9, 2013

Who ordered the hit on the George Street 4?

Since the bodies of four George Street affiliates were found on Tuesday morning, there has been no further violence in the city’s hotspots. After meeting with the prime minister, some leaders of the gang left the City to cool off tensions. The rumor mill and citizen journalists on Facebook may have helped spread mass hysteria that shut down schools, banks and other businesses in Belize City on Tuesday, but it’s the lack of information that continues to encourage people to ask more questions. Those questions include:  How did the killers manage to execute four men in a flawless manner without being seen? Was the quadruple homicide motivated by recent events that unfolded on the streets? Sources in the Police Department are looking at several angles. Recently, there was the murder of a man who spent his time between Belize and Mexico. One trail that is being followed is exploring possible links between George Street gang affiliates and organized crime in Mexico about a drug deal gone bad. At his press conference on Tuesday evening, the Prime Minister Dean Barrow said that the gang does not believe it was hit by another gang while he is certain that there will not be any retaliation by George Street against other gangs.

 

Prime Minister Dean Barrow

“We recognize that while for reasons I will tell you now, this in our view is not any inter-gang execution; still opportunists in the underworld, may want to take advantage of the current climate.”

 

Patrick Jones, Love TV

“You mentioned that you don’t believe that there is an inter-gang rivalry that is responsible. Then is there any…”

 

Dean Barrow

Dean Barrow

“I never said I don’t believe that, you know; please. I said they are positive that it is not any other gang. I haven’t offered my own view of who is responsible. I am telling you what the George Street people said to us. They are certain that it is not any other gang and so there can be no question of their retaliating against any other gang. We are arranging for some interlocutor, some intermediary other than the police, to speak to these people and to collect whatever material they may feel they have to offer. That material will be looked at certainly by the Ministry of National Security and if there is anything that appears to require further action; that further action will be taken. There can be no question, we believe, on retaliation at all as a consequence of the discussions. But in any case, even conceptually, there can be no retaliation against a rival gang because they are convinced that this is not the work of a rival gang. Now there are other inter-gang rivalries in the city as you know and that is why the Commissioner made the point that there are other zones where there will as well be increased vigilance. But please, the point I want to make clear is that there is no question in our minds of any retaliation by George Street certainly against any other gang. And we are convinced not, as well, any retaliation at large.”

 

External agents and deportees are being considered as possible leads.

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32 Responses for “Who ordered the hit on the George Street 4?”

  1. Storm says:

    In this crisis it would be good if the PM had established credibility, that we knew he always spoke the truth. But I can’t say that, so I wish he would be quiet and let law enforcement and BDF handle this matter.

    And can he be so foolish to believe what gang members allegedly tell him, that they won’t retaliate? Whatever they told him, it isn’t worth repeating. Criminals are born to lie whenever it is convenient for the moment, the truth means nothing at all to them.

    Lastly, the PM should be ashamed and embarrassed for even communicating with gangsters, let alone taking them seriously. They should fear him, and he should hate them, but neither of those things is true.

  2. Genotu Rembiuos says:

    I have said it before: gangs will sometime hurt someone that cannot just see a loved one being buried and the killer gangs go and get fat at prison !!!!
    Too much good lawyers, too much money to spend to get a conviction, better an eye for an eye, let`s see if the gangs take this serious.

  3. Marion says:

    Dean Barrow you are a disgrace to the country of belize, how can you even sit down & discuss crime with these thugs. And where did these criminals go to COOL TENSION?

  4. Rod says:

    The biggest jack ass in Belize just the watch this man talk make me wa vomit the total lack of leadership is appalling wake up belizeans nowhewamakeunu believe that a foreign entity committed this crime well this would only show unu ignorance again if killers can enter Belize so easily without the customs people catching all thesmurderers coming over the border guan judas guan resign please resign.

  5. Al says:

    I am baffeled by the words of this man who is suppose to be the leader having a dialogue with criminals and takinhg their word. It seems he has more faith in the gangs than in the citizens that are hostage to these criminal activity. Now even the deportees who are not in the gangs are being suspect but not the gangs, oh my. I am sure there are deportees who may have done something wrong in the US but have changed their lives, so they are more suspect than the known local gangs. I believe these murders were committed by a well organized drug group,

    The PM is dealing with the devil, he is believing the lies they are telling him. If you ask Satan if he is the enemy of Jesus Christ he will tell you no, same thing here.

    Mr police pull the phone records of all of those murdered follow the phone calls incoming and outgoing, pay special attention to calls received and made on the day of the murder and into the early morning of the murder discovery. I hope the police collected all those kinds of items that could help in the investigation. I hope they took pictures of any bloody foot prints that were left at the scene so that shoes can be chekced against those prints later when suspects are questioned. There is a big message sent here, if it is true that their throats were cut out, there is a message there, they lied to someone and the message is that if you lie this is what will happen to you. The gangs are not talking, why, they know who these people were dealing with, they are not just backing off from the other gangs just to back off, these gangs know everything about each member. The gangs are scared, because if this can happen to four at the same time, they can be done in also.

    If I were those cops who lost all that drugs for the columbians, I would go into deep hiding. This has crossed over from small time to big time, they rolled the dice and lost.

  6. Belizean Pride says:

    for this scum bags the pm makes press release and for the cayo students did he ever made one, none, see what we’re getting too. how hard headed is this barrow to make a bold shameful move like this. forget about this four and lets try kill the rest, they need no investigation, when other kids, shop owners and students not forgetting a caniero has died where was a such investigation and so much press has barrow done, none, not even the condolences to the families.

  7. b.Jones says:

    I must believe the talk on the streets which say that politicians use bad boys to do their dirty works.. That can only be the reason why Barrow always cuddling up the George St gang/Belize crosses. I dont see Mexico meeting with Zeta Cartel. I dont see California meeting with the Crips & Bloods nor anyone meeting with MS-13. Why Barrow make himself look so bad. I can only draw the conclusion that he is indebted to these guys in some way. He dont even meet with the other Gangs if it dont include George St. From paying them for work they didn’t do, through state run program to sending them Up the road to stay in hotel, using state money, is very suspect & crazy. Barrow havent even tried to start a work program for regular, law abiden citizens. I must say that I had Much respect for Barrow. I swore he would have been difference maker. I am so disappointed in Barrow and see no hope for Belize right about now. PuP=UdU so i nuh wa hear crapp about the next one. They both are like some bad pickney weh get a girl drunk and just Di tek tunrn pan her…..New blood\New People are needed to give me hope again.

  8. moses EX PC says:

    I need more information. Was the apartment ransacked. Was there blood splattered. Were there other injuries to the deceased. Were there any ropes or other devices. It’s inconceivable to kill 4 people without a sign of struggle or anyone hearing anything. Could they have been drugged and then had their throats slit. Was there any forced entry. Who was the last person who saw them. Have forensics tested for poison? Were cell phones checked for texts or recent activity. The police are not smart enough to pull this off. Rival gang members would have had a shoot out. This was a stealth killing. My guess is that homeboy got a hold of some sea gold, made arrangements to cash it in; met some bad guys who agreed to an exchange. The deal was done, celebrated with a drink or a snort. The boys were drugged and their throats were slashed. We all know that this had to be a professional job, our police, sadly, and so called gangbangers, are not professionals in the art of underworld killings. There is a strong possibility that this was done by a foreign professional hit team. Hollywood could not make this stuff up. Hollywood would have added a little romance and comedy. The bawling women provided some romance, but the Prime Minister provided the comedy when he begged the gang leaders to get out of Dodge.

  9. oscar965 says:

    but we all know that the this gang enjoys “special attention”. That Gang ensures that the pm gets elected time and time again and it return they get special treatment. The truth will not come out and this case will soon be forgotten as sadly more blood will run in belize in 2013….i am a proud belizean..but i cannot say that i am proud of our elected leaders…

  10. melinda says:

    I agree with the fanantics above, for once they are right: the PM should not sit and hold any discussions with gangs, never , ever. I know some will say that Chavez and other presidents sit and discuss peace with rebels in their country but these guys are plain thieves. They have no cause to fight for other than stealing. They give credence to the claim that black men are lazy and thief.

  11. Racism everywhere says:

    if you have a MS 13 tattoo you are taken to court and charged for a crime, but if you belong to George Street Gang you can meet with the Prime Minister and get a police escort to a resort for a paid vacation, you figure it out.

  12. Southern says:

    Meeting with known criminal elements showed that you condone their actions and give them a sense of identity. Just who do you think you are fooling? You lost your credibility as a leader a long time ago.

  13. blacksheep says:

    @ Southern…not only does it show they condone their actions, it is an offense according to our laws!!!! yes u heard me an offense!!
    “2.-(1) Subject to subsection (3) below, a person is guilty of an offence is he
    knowingly:-
    (a) belongs or professes to belong to a criminal gang;
    (b) solicits or invites support for a criminal gang; or
    (c) arranges or assists in the arrangement of, or addresses,
    any meeting of three or more persons (whether or not it
    is a meeting to which the public are admitted) knowing
    that the meeting is:- (i) to support a criminal gang; or
    (ii) to further the activities of a criminal gang.
    (2) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) above shall
    be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars
    or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both such fine
    and imprisonment.”
    Taken from The Substantive Laws of Belize, Chapter 102 ‘Crime Control and Criminal Justice: Part 1 Suppression of Criminal Gangs’
    Question is how do we as a country sit back and watch our prime minister break laws an expect change????

  14. orangewalkenio says:

    i agree with u people….The PM dropped the ball on this one…..again…..he wants to look the like hero but i think it backfired big time…

  15. orangewalkenio says:

    i agree with u people….The PM dropped the ball on this one…..again…..he wants to look the like hero but i think it backfired big time…The Belizean people are smarter than that…..i hope they dont forget….

  16. moses EX PC says:

    I wonder if now would be a good time for a coup de tat. I never, ever, thought I would consider this action against a UDP government. Dean, duuuude, what were you thinking? You keep finding ways to blank yourself. As an attorney and a great thinker, you must reconsider your actions. At least tell us why you did what you did. People love you, but this thing you did was wrong. If I were you I’d call a press conference and recant your cuddling with criminal gangsters. Listen to the people.

  17. R Moss says:

    I’m concerened about the Prime Minister having the capability to sit down with the gang members and able to get the information from them. If they would sit down with him then, he should be able to influence them in stopping all these murders.

  18. moses EX PC says:

    In response to “who ordered the hit on George Street”, The Special Branch should be working on this. However, from the many posts on this site, I deduce that no one really cares except for a few bawling women. Even the gangsters’ brother said, the victims were better off dead.

    Research has shown that the slitting of the throats of murder victims is a clear message used by the underworld to instill fear in their enemies or anyone who cross them. The cutting out of the tongue is reserved for snitches. If you research the CIA files you will find that this method of killing is used frequently by drug cartels. Rogue governments and corrupt cops are sloppy in these matters; so to all the conspiracy theorists out there, I suggest ruling out GSU or the government. What I do know and my state department analysts friends agree with me is that Mexican cartels have used this method frequently. It would behoove all Belizeans who think they won the lotto when they find gold in the sea to think about the message that was sent to George Street. It is estimated that the cartel loses 100 bails of coke every year in bad drops; they don’t take this lightly.

  19. Seletar says:

    @Moses, I’m sure a lot of thinking Belizeans would support a coup d’etat, if it were led by a person of unquestioned integrity. And followed by a new constitution with effective checks and balances, and free and fair elections. No return to UDP or PUP or any of the Belizean “aristocracy.”

    Our nation is called the Jewel of the Caribbean for good reason, but it has been so badly tarnished by corrupt and incompetent leaders in a steady stream.

  20. twosweetinez says:

    Kudos to whoever executed this mission you all deserve a national defense ribbon.

  21. belizelans says:

    I personally think that the P>M is hiding something, you are not fooling me at all. you should have never went up there and talk about gang member not retaliating. me as a citizen are hurt to know that these gang members are being paid to keep peace and being bad while we work hard for our money. some of them are even making more money then some of us are making.

  22. eyeforaneye says:

    In other countries-”Who Kill With Iron With Iron Die” but in BELIZE “Who Kill With Iron GOB protects them”

  23. A true BELIZEAN says:

    This is what our country has come to ????? do u really think that taking out those men out of the city to an urban area will really make any difference ?????? As the Prime Minister of this country you should try to make changes and make our Belize a better Belize not the other way arround !
    How could you even allow yourself to stoop so low when it is you who is causing all theese curoption in our country ! Am a young lady that is attending school and i still can’t understand why you are making theese ridiculous mistakes with these gang members !
    You should be leading not misleading our country! Think of the futuer of the younger generations and of those that are still trying to make a change in our community. Stop thinking of your pocket for once and lead this country with pride and manner !!!!!!!!

  24. bmp chic says:

    Al you are a very smart person, hats off to u

  25. Belizeisfuck says:

    Hope you all know who to vote for in the next election.

  26. Frank says:

    I am a Belizean living in the USA and Belize. As I see it, the Prime Minister (PM) and Minister Fennigan are weak leaders that cannot make decisions when it is needed. Belize needs a leader who will take out and take down the gang by any means necessary to save the good people of Belize. I believe that the above mentioned leaders are in cahoots with the George street gangs. The world is looking at Belize with a sore eye. It is now a country to avoid. Shame on you Dean Barrow and Fennigan.

  27. bgroovy says:

    The good news is these ksuckers will never hurt or kill anyone again….

  28. Blzboy says:

    im speechless in whats happening, if the law of Belize states that no gang relations will be tolerated, meaning that if any signs of forms are being noticed the Police have all rights to lock up those certain individuals..now tell me why in the good lords name the PM of Belize affiliates with those gang members of George street, its sad to say the even our ow Leaders are contradicting our laws. im heart broken and i don’t believe in the Government i believe in our country. Despite all the negatives occurring in our country we Belizeans should stand together and put a end to this violence. Prayers goes out to those families who have lost a family member in gang relation violence.

  29. Hot Bar says:

    Is it possible to impeach that @$$!@#$? Never in my life have I heard such quackery. I do not live in Belize but I love my country but with a leader like Dean Barrow, SHE WEEPS.
    He is not fit to lead a nation.

  30. concern-#2 says:

    Fooling with the cartels is no joke, you will be dealt with accordingly. Remember those boat load of people that disappeared on that fishing trip, they must have found something also. I agree our cops are not smart enough to pull off something like this. I’ve been saying this from the time I heard about this killing, this was done by some professionals, it was a hit. I was discussed when I heard this mother saying if it was her son, she would kill some police and die with her son. This is the type of mentally we are dealing with today, in Belize.

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  32. VOICE OF REASON says:

    FIRST AND FOREMOST yALL’S PM IS A GANSTER, SO IF YOU DIDNT KNOW CHECK BELIZE’S ARCHIVES. THATS ALL I WILL SAY ON THAT MATTER. ALSO I AGREE WITH MOSES, THIS WAS A PROFESSIONAL HIT FROM THE DRUG CARTELS, IT WAS A DEAL GONE BAD, OR THEY OWE SOME MONEY OR THE CARTELS DONT BELIEVE THE SHIPMENT THEY SEND THE OTHER DAY GOT BUSTED. GSU IS NOT SUFFISTICATED ENOUGH TO PULL SOMETHING OFF LIKE THIS. I ALSO THINK THEY PAYED SOMEONE CLOSE TO THEM FOR INFO AND LAY OUT OF THE PLACE, THAT PERSON SHOWED UP AN NOCKED ON THE DOOR, BECAUSE IT WAS A FAMILIAR FACE HE WAS LET IN. THEN THE CARTELS CAME IN BEHIND HIM. PEOPLE GET SET UP ALL THE TIME. THEY WERE TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE WITH GRUSOMENESS OF THE CRIME. WHEN U DO WRONG AN HAVE MANY ENEMIES, YOU DONT KNOW WHO TO TURN TO FIRST. WHILE I DONT AGREE WITH THE PM IN MEETINGS WITH THESE GUYS WHO ARE MY FRIENDS BY THE WAY. I THINK IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTRY, YOU GUYS KNOW AS WELL AS I DO, GEAOGE STREET DA NOTHIN NICE FI LAY WITH. SO IN THE PM DOING SO, HE ACTUALLY SAVED A LOT INNOCENT LIVES THAT COULD HAVE BEING CAUGHT UP IN THE CROSS FIRE. WHICH WOULD HAVE ONLY LED TO MORE BLOOD SHED. YOU DONT WANT INNOCENT PEOPLE DYING FROM SPECULATION OF SOME UNEDUCATED DISTRAUGHT PEOPLE. I KNOW THATS HARSH, BUT ITS THE TRUTH. I MEAN LISTEN TO THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS….SHEESH, AND I WANT TO SEE HER MEDICAL DEGREE IN PHORENSIC SCIENCE. ANYWAYS OVER AN OUT. LETS HOPE THEY PAY UP BEFORE THE CARTELS COME BACK

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