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Nov 16, 2011

Church’s legal dream team prepare for unholy war

The case of UNIBAM for the decriminalization of homosexuality in Belize is catching fire on the international scene. It is seen as a first test case to essentially kick off a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality in numerous countries around the world. The legal battle will start in the Supreme Court on December fifth by a cadre of high profile attorneys on either side of the much debated argument.  The issue has seen many, including the Council of Churches as well as human rights activists, weighing their positions on the matter.  On February fourth, a first of its kind lawsuit was brought against the Attorney General’s Office by Caleb Orozco and the United Belize Advocacy Movement (UNIBAM) challenging section fifty-three of the Criminal Code.  UNIBAM is seeking to have that section of the code which states that carnal intercourse against the order of nature be declared unconstitutional.  The churches, on the other hand, argue that by repealing that portion of legislation it will pave the way for gay rights in Belize. According to the British Guardian Newspaper of today, Queen’s Counsel Lord Peter Goldsmith is leading a newly formed British legal rights group in launching a global campaign to legalize same sex relationships.  The organization, known as the Human Dignity Trust (HDT), is involved in the UNIBAM case after which similar challenges against homophobic laws will be introduced in Northern Cyprus and Jamaica in the weeks to come.  HDT intends to target a little over eighty predominantly Commonwealth countries where consensual sexual activity between same sex partners is prohibited. In court the Council of Churches will be represented by attorneys Rodwell Williams, Eamon Courtenay, Michel Chebat, Jackie Marshalleck and Chris Coye while UNIBAM is being defended by Lord Peter Goldsmith, Lisa Shoman and Godfrey Smith.  As we said, that case begins in the Supreme Court in early December.

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34 Responses for “Church’s legal dream team prepare for unholy war”

  1. Storm says:

    I’m sympathetic with homosexuals, but not homosexual conduct. “Love the sinner, hate the sin.”

    In truth, I have a gay relative, who was made that way by being molested by a neighbor man as a boy. I believe most homosexuals are made that way by being molested, they are not born that way. And it is not God’s plan.

    Defending our society is important. Otherwise, we will be facing “same sex marriage” here before you know it. You know the arguments, “Who are we to judge what is right or wrong? If it feels good, do it! It’s not hurting anybody!” But there is no society on Earth that has survived the loss of cultural morality, and we will be no different.

    This is another threat to the survival of our little but special country, and we owe it to our children to fight to preserve it.

  2. Be Real says:

    The fact that Mr Courtenay is on the churches side and that Mr Smith and Lisa Shoman are on the homosexuals side makes one wonder. Also I do not like the fact that Lord Goldsmith QC is coming to Belize to tell Beizeans what laws should govern their country. Lord Goldsmith should keep his gay rights stuff in his country because we stright in Belize (no pun intended). I also do not understand why this case is being brought. No DPP is going to charge any gay couple who have consensual homosexual sex. The DPP and police would need a complainant and if it was consensual homosexual sex, where are they going to get that complainant? The law is aimed at homosexuals who have sex with people of the same sex without those people’s consent. The type of people we hear about in the news who rape people’s sons. So I do not see why Mr Orozco is scared when he would never be prosecuted for having consensual sex with his gay partner or partners.

  3. bzn2dabone says:

    I urge Belizeans to rise against this movement. We all know that Belize is a God-fearing country and thus, we should not let homosexuals have their way in our country. This will only lead to other immoral actions being committed. Belizeans, let’s take a stand against sexual immorality – homosexuality is totally wrong.

  4. Ana says:

    The Belizean government tolerates too much crap. They should not have entertained these people to begin with. They seem to have their own agenda. I pray that GOD closes all doors to these people and their agenda.

  5. belizeanpride says:

    i’m against this unibam issue. i stand like BZN2DABONE we are a country that is striving to be a fearing God country but if we change paths then wrath will be coming more than ever.
    lets stand against this as a nation, we should NOT be copying what other nations are doing. if they encourage such things and legalize it, we should not be peer pressured to do since they all believe it’s good.

  6. general says:

    ……..godfrey smith and liz shoman…pack dem up and the rest of nasty people and n drop dem out a sea pass the reef…….

    and let the sharks eat their body parts that they dont know how to use…..

  7. CEO37 says:

    I love it when ignorance is perpetuated by ridiculous people. Note Denmark, Germany, Poland, ireland are all countries with god in their constitution. So it is possible to have god in the constitution and not have a law that criminlaizes anal sex. Note. The law is used to harrassed, intimidate disportionately against gay men, even though straight people do it as well. Note: The law does not criminalise homosexuality, it perpetuate, the discrimination against homosexuals. As your comments have shown. @ Ana we dont have an agenda, other than equal treatment under the law, spending time with family and drinking milk. 2 storm, i accept that you are a closet case, so i wont say much.

  8. made in the image says:

    We are made in HIS image and HE said it was not good for the man to be alone, so he went and created a Woman, hear not another man to be Adam’s companion, but a woman. Orozco & crew are wrong. Lisa & Godfrey, please remove yourselves from representing this type.

    Do it for Belize, no mek di $$$belizabeths$$$ reddi’n u yeye.

  9. brightman says:

    God is the only judge! The scriptures are “inspired” word…many changes and translations have taken place in the compilation of this Work. People need to understand that when they were ‘written’ people’s social and cultural understanding of THAT TIME were impressed in the production of the various books. The scientific understanding of the world was in rudimentary stage. Why can’t we couple science and faith? And, who knows for sure whose faith is absolute??? Resources should be channeled in preventing violence, hunger, abuse, poverty…”Do unto others as you would have them to you”. Where is 1 Corinthians13??? Let each individual have the right to determine their path in life…educate, do not hate!!!!!!!!!!

  10. Earl Grey says:

    FUNNY HOW THE CHURCH DOES AND SAYS NOTHING ABOUT STREET CRIME, and POVERTY

  11. Retired CEO says:

    While I do not and perhaps will never support this particular way of life it is very sad to say that the church is meddling by throwing up a smoke screen to cover up its’ past and perhaps present behaviour and neglect towards the many allegations of sex abuse/homosexuallity perpetrated by many members of the church and clergy. I agree with brightman they should aggressively channell/used their resources to in preventing violence, hunger, child abuse, crime, poverty, capitalisitc greed, currupted politicians and all the other social ills that are wreaking havoc in the jewel and global community. Clearly, the church is playing on the emotions and ignorance of the masses by throwing up this huge smoke screen, this is nothing less than pseudo-religiousity. They need to clean-up their own house before meddling into private lives of others. The Creator of the heavens and the earth and all that exists is the one and only judge. Finally, people need to understand that the bible is not the pure and absolute word of the Creator. No one has the absolute wherewithall on the words the Creator.

  12. sofia says:

    I am awed about the double standard of the church that instead of using peace and unitly has through history brought death and chaos in the name of god. That is why most churches are empty nowadays.Some people can become gays and lesbians because of abuse from men especially the lesbians BUT they were never GAY,, so they can return to their actual sexuality which is heterosexual. However people are born gay and i have a son who since he was a kid we knew he would be gay. I see how he suffers for being gay because of descrimination and hate and the church throwing more stones to them. He as a right to live in peace and be happy and itss god to decide his faith. Murderers and rapistss seem to have more rights in this country and our coutry belize has lost its path not because of homosexuality but because of abandoned and unloved children by a straight society. If the church wanted to do good for belize THERE is where they should start. We arre already the sixth most dangerous country iin the world. We should pary to GOD for the future of our children NOT because of homosexuals but that one day they do not fall victims to unscrupulous murderers and drugs.. Where is the church on this ? And just for you to know, all my children have left and abandon me to theiir lives..Guess whi is taaking caree of me.. YES, my gay son and i love him..

  13. pp says:

    Yeah! Let homosexuality legalize, then people will legalize Pedophilia or Zoophilia, cause all of them are human right????????????????????????

  14. BLZCUn says:

    Be real you must be kidding right maybe you Straight as uneducated as you may sound. It is not a matter of fear it more about a right that we as a person have. I am sure that you have heard of 1 or more cases where police or government officials have continuosly harrased Gay or supposedly gay couples probably for the fun of it or for the extra cash they can extort out of us. Probably if Mr. Orozco proves his point we will see some sort of change.
    blz2dabone- if belize is a God fearing country how come you are just killing each other, acting like pigs, stealing from each other, and your own country as well as all the lust if you would be so God fearing rectify that.
    I pray to God he closes his doors at Ana and she shut her mouth unless it is something affecting her then dont butt in.
    My poin is If Mr. Orozco Gets his way maybe i might reconsider moving back into Belize. Then Belize might be able to say they have culture!!!

  15. OWtoBoston says:

    READ IF YOU WANT. I FEEL TO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE TO NOT SPEAK UP.

    Scripture is not the ally Christian homophobes think it is. By Error!

    It is difficult for people who are not part of the Christian Church to understand the power its members attribute to the Bible. That attribution appears to non-church goers to be so irrational and so excessive as to be almost inconceivable. After all, they reason, the Bible is an ancient book with its earliest narrative, the Yahwist document, being written around 1000 B.C.E. and its latest narrative, probably the 2nd Epistle of Peter, being written somewhere around 135 C.E. There is no other piece of literature written in that period of history which people today still treat as a source of ultimate truth. A doctor or pharmacist practicing medicine or dispensing drugs in our time based on either the writings of Aristotle or the formulas of an ancient medicine man would be laughed at first, and then if this activity were not stopped immediately, they would be accused of malpractice, removed from their professions and even imprisoned. While that harsh a treatment might not be the fate of a chemist, biologist, architect or astronomer who acted on the basis of the knowledge available in the time the Bible was written, such behavior would nonetheless be considered ignorant at best, mentally ill at worst.

    Yet as strange as it might seem, the Bible continues to be quoted by 21st century Christians on a variety of issues as if this book somehow continues to hold literal truth and unchanging principles within its tissue thin pages. So deeply has this book been wrapped in the claims of divinely inspired inerrancy, that it acts like a wild card in current ethical debates.

    No where is this more obvious than in the controversy over homosexuality that rocks the Christian Churches of the world today. Inerrant claims for biblical truth have been present in the official statements of the Vatican, in the reports and resolutions adopted at the Lambeth Conference of the Anglican Bishops of the world in 1998, and in the rhetoric and votes that have marked almost all statewide, diocesan, synodical and national gatherings of various Christian traditions including both mainline protestant and fundamentalist churches. Again and again over the last twenty five years negativity toward gay and lesbian behavior has been justified by an appeal to something some Christians continue to call “biblical morality,” and to assert that there is something called “clear biblical teaching. One wonders what those phrases mean.

    “Clear biblical teaching” and “biblical morality” are not phrases of recent origin. They have been used in the debates over the centuries on a wide variety of issues. Yet when the smoke of battle over these ancient issues has cleared, it has always been the Christians, bruised and battered, but still clinging to their Bibles, who have been forced to slink away in defeat. But no matter how many times the “clear biblical teaching” has been shown to be dead wrong, the next new insight that challenges the patterns of the past goes through the same hostile process. Religious people do not seem to learn much from history. The Bible had to be proved wrong before the divine right of kings could be pushed aside and the Magna Carta accepted. It had to be defeated before Galileo’s ideas about the non centrality of this planet in the universe could usher in the world of astronomy, and before Darwin’s understanding of evolution could win the day. The clear teaching of the Bible also had to be overcome before slavery and segregation could be ended and before women could escape their second class status. In a remarkably similar pattern today, a major impediment to the quest for justice and the full acceptance for gay and lesbian people in the life of this society is the Bible, which is quoted over and over again to justify the homophobic prejudice that still so deeply infects our culture.

    Homophobia is a prejudice largely created and sustained by the scriptures of the Judeo -Christian tradition. However, the Bible is destined to lose this fight also and homophobia will join the parade of other human and religious evils like racism, chauvinism, the condemnation of mentally ill people, left-handed people and anti-semitism as one more dark cloud in Christian history, a killing prejudice that endured far longer that it should have because it was supported by “the inerrant word of God.”

    But how accurate is the claim that the Bible condemns homosexuality as a sin? At best the record is ambivalent. There are seven biblical passages that are regularly cited by fundamentalist Christians and their fellow travelers to justify their condemnation of homosexuality. Three are in the Old Testament and four are in the New Testament. However, three of the four found in the New Testament are highly suspect and appear to refer to sexual anomalies such as temple prostitution, pederasty or forced sexual activity which are quite unrelated to homosexuality. So the biblical texts that actually condemn homosexuality as we today understand it, are only four in the entire Bible and none of them, interestingly enough, is found is the Gospels. According to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. Given the all consuming nature of the current ecclesiastical debates on this issue that fact comes as a shock. Jesus does talk about those who are victims of prejudice like the Samaritans, and those who are marginalized and rejected like the lepers, but he never says a word about anyone’s sexual orientation. Perhaps church leaders should contemplate the possibility that they are, as one man once suggested, “making much of that which cannot matter much to God.”

    When we turn to examine these four biblical proof texts, other insights develop. The first passage is found in the Book of Genesis, and relates the story of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. That narrative has given us the rather inelegant words sodomy, sodomite and sodomize. It is a strange story about ancient middle eastern hospitality laws and the right of the people of any town to harass and to violate sexually, any strangers to whom no fellow citizen has extended the protection of hospitality. This failure of hospitality left strangers at the mercy of the base elements of the city.

    Humiliating an unprotected visitor by forcing him to act like a woman in the sex act, was the supreme insult in these cruel and insensitive days. That is the underlying reality described in this biblical episode. Lot, Abraham’s nephew, gave his protection to two male visitors at the end of the day when preparations for sexual abuse had already begun. The men of Sodom were furious and sought to take their intended victims by force. It is interesting that every time this story is referred to in other texts of the Bible it is the sin of inhospitality not homosexuality that is its focus. The climax of the story comes when Lot is judged by God to be righteous and is thus spared when the city of Sodom is destroyed. Yet Lot, seeking to protect these male visitors , who were said in the text to be angels, from being violated, offered to make his two virgin daughters available to the mob to be gang raped. After all they were only women! Later in this same story the “righteous” Lot has sex with these same two daughters and impregnates them. I never hear this narrative quoted to affirm incest! Yet this strange biblical passage continues to be used to condemn homosexuality. Perhaps those who quote it in this manner might want to read the whole story!

    Next there are two passages in the book of Leviticus which are part of the Torah. Leviticus 18 condemns a man for ‘lying with a man as with a woman” and Leviticus 20 requires the death penalty for this offence. First, it needs to be noted that even John Paul II, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson, all of whom regularly condemn homosexuality as a sin condemned by scripture, refrain from calling for the death penalty as the punishment for this offence. They know that a campaign for the execution of homosexual people would not be tolerated so in a pattern of what might be called “selective literalism” this verse of the Bible is simply ignored.

    Second, one wonders why several other Torah rules have been generally ignored while this one is elevated to the status of “the word of God.” The Torah prescribes a kosher diet which fundamentalists today ignore. The Torah says that a person cannot make a garment of two different kinds of fabric. It says that those who worship a false god should be executed and so should those children who are disobedient and who talk back to their parents! It orders people to observe the Sabbath by refraining from all activity save worship on Saturday. It assumes that slavery is a legitimate social institution, while defining women as the property of men. A book containing this kind of dubious ethical teaching hardly seems to be a competent authority to be used to make moral judgements about homosexuality.

    The premier New Testament passage condemning homosexuality is found in Romans 1 and is from the hand of Paul. It is the strangest of all the biblical arguments. Paul suggests in this passage that God will punish those people who do not worship God properly. The punishment will be that God will confuse their sexual identities so that men will lie with men and women with women. What a strange God! Thus saith the Lord; “If you don’t worship me properly I will turn you into being gays and lesbians.” I have a hard time imagining any one worshiping such a capricious and egocentric deity.

    The other issue that this passage raises is, what is going on in Paul that he would offer such a weird argument? Is this an autobiographical note? Does it illumine those passages in Paul’s other epistles where he exhibits his passion for proper worship, for advancing beyond all his peers in piety? But the pursuit of that thesis will have to wait for next month’s column.

    For now let me be clear. Quoting the Bible is not a legitimate argument to deploy in the current ecclesiastical and cultural debate on homosexuality. It is nothing more than an outdated and ignorant appeal to the prejudices of yesterday. It is an illegitimate and even a profane way to approach scripture. It does not illumine the complex issues of sexual orientation. This approach to the Bible should either cease forthwith or the Bible used in this manner should be relegated to the same dustbins of history where the text in the Book of Joshua, stopping the sun in the sky to prove that Galileo was wrong, now resides. Quoting the literal Bible in the service of one’s prejudices must be named as incompetence even if it involves a proof text from “the world of God.”

  16. mustard says:

    why don’t all of you above go and protect the borders instead of this !@$$. I agree with BLZCUn.. and go Sofia.. you tell them too, ignorant they be.. ignorant. and the rest you, keep your bible thumping to yourself.. i do not you to poke reglion down me throat, when you rob,steal,lie and teif..

  17. believer says:

    I GUESS PEOPLE JUDGE OTHERS CAUSING HURT AND EMBEDDING HATRED TOWARD THESE GAY PEOPLE. I DONT EXPECT TO WALK TO CHURCH AND HAVE GAY PEOPLE GETTING MARRIED. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I EXPECT THEM TO HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS LIKE ANY OTHER BELIZEAN CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY. WE MUST REMEMBER THAT WE ALL GROW OLD AND IN THE PROCESS OF SUCH, MUST LEARN TO RESPECT OTHERS PEOPLE CHOICES IN LIFE. IF THE GAY PERSON WANTS TO SPEND THE REST OF THEIR LIFE WITH ANOTHER PARTNER OF SAME SEX…LET IT BE….
    SAME WAY, STRAIGHT PEOPLE DRINK, SMOKE, DO DRUGS, RAPE, MURDER – I GUESS DOING THIS THINGS ARE NORMAL HERE IN BELIZE… NO WONDER EVERYONE GETS AWAY WITH CRIME IN THIS COUNTRY……
    ITS JUST A MATTER OF EQUALITY….. AGAIN…. ITS THE PERSON CHOICE…NOT OURS!

  18. CEO says:

    This is not my lifestyle and it would be better if we all lived in a society where we all think the same way, but this world is made up of all types and there is room for all of us on earth. I just read a lot of ignorance above: truth is that more children are molested by straight men than by gay men. Children are abused in two parent homes than any other household.

    Most violent crimes are committed by straigh males. If I got it correct Belize is suffering from a serious crime problem of all dimentions comitted by 99.9 percent of the straight Belizeans! Need I say anymore? For those that did not get the point, the real problem in Belize is outside of the gay community: go figure!

    Those laws should have been removed after a judicial review and this would have saved our country many millions to defend its self against antiquated laws that were wrong to start with. A case they will lose in any modern court of law. Slavery was once legal too.

    There are many other laws that need to be changed in Belize too. All you who were quick to jump up on you box a preach your gospel let’s see you do the same against crime in Belize! This is what the country needs!

  19. Earl Grey says:

    Live………. AND LET LIVE…………

  20. pp says:

    so BLZCUn tell me something! how you feel about pedophilia and Zoophilia? do they have human right and should be legalized too?
    by the way you have your choice to move back Belize, same as we have choice to say no to homosexuality!!

  21. KP says:

    LEVITICUS 18:22 And you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a deatestable thing. Romans 1:24-27 Therefore God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts,gave themup to uncleanness,that their bodies might be dishonored among them,25. Even those who exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venera tr d and tendeted sacred service to the cteation rather than the one who created,who is blessed forrvet.Amen.26. That is why God gabe them up to disgraceful srcual appetites,for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature. And likewise even the males left the natur ask use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another,males with males,working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense,which eas due for their error.

  22. Earl Grey says:

    LIKE THEM OR NOT……WE ARE ALL GOD’S CHILDREN…..ALL EQUAL IN HIS SIGHT!!!

  23. louisville,ky says:

    It is amazing how this Gay rights foolishness is flooding the countries of the world like a devastating Tsunami. So that Belize, even my Belize, has taken the bait , hook, line and sinker.
    It’s not even as if I am jumping on the churchs’ band wagon in denouncing this ‘sleckniss’ because for the most part they themselves have not been completely blameless as far as their stand on homosexual matters are concerned.
    Homosexuality is WRONG, PERIOD !!……….And who bex, bex.
    You don’t have to believe in the bible. You don’t even have to believe in God. Just go to the history books and inquire what happened to the ancient cities of Soddom and Gomorrah and why they vanished.
    My beef with homosexuals is the close relations they have with Pedophiles. Show me a man that has sex with another man and I’ll show you a man that molests little boys.
    Is that the reason why they want the laws to be changed, so that they may have more freedom with our little boys? Because on the real, nobody gives a rat’s backside ( pun intended ) what you hairy tone men do behind closed doors.

  24. MACAL RIVERA says:

    FOR REAL I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE CHURCH DON’T BARK LIKE RABID DOGS WHEN A CHILD IS RAPE, INNOCENT PEOPLE GETTING KILLED ALL THE ROBBERIES TAKING PLACE!!!
    WHAT HAPPEN? IS THE CHURCH MUTE???? ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HEAR THEM BARKING ABOUT THIS HOMOSEXUAL THING!!!!!
    WELL GUESS WHAT!!! OUR POOR CHILDREN THAT ARE BEING RAPE CANNOT GIVE THEM MONEY, THE POOR VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE CANNOT GIVE THEM MONEY, THE VICTIMS OR ROBBERY CANNOT GIVE THEM MONEY, BECAUSE THE THIEF ALL THEIR BELONGINGS, BUT GUESS WHAT JUST LIKE HOW LIZA AND GODREY ARE GETTING MILLION TO DEFEND UNIBAM SO THE CHURCHES ARE GETTING MILLIONS TO BARK, AND THIS IS WHAT I HAVE AGAINST THEM, THEY ONLY BARK WHEN IN CONVENIENT TO THEM, OTHERWISE ALL THE CRIMES TAKES PLACE AND THE THEM IS (WHO THE HELL CARES).
    I AM NOT SAYING I SUPPORT UNIBAM (HELL NO!!!) BUT I HATE WHEN THE CHURCHES BECOMES BIG TIME HYPOCRATES WOW, ITS DISGUSTING, I WOULD STAND BEHIND THE CHURCHES ALL OUT IF I WOULD SEE THEM SPEAKING UP AGAINST ALL OTHER CRIMES COMMITTED IN OUR COUNTRY. AND GUESS WHAT, I AM SURE MEN IN CHURCHES LOVES …. SEX!!!!!!!!

  25. louisville,ky says:

    OWto Boston, did you really have to stretch your arguement and use so many words to defend and attempt to explain away this abomination that you call , gay? Am just saying……

  26. sofia says:

    Louisville and PP.. Please have facts before you speak.. In latinamerica 78% of child abusers aare heterosexuals NOT homosexuals.. In Europe its 82% heterosexuals NOT homosexuals in the US its 68% heterosexuals NOT Homosexuals and plus the multimillion dollar lawsuits of churchmen abusing kids if you would read the news arre astounding… The igonorant and oudated idea as the law itself that because one is a homosexual it auotomatically means pedophile is plain wrong. Have a visit to hattieville prison and look at the charts of inmates for abusing women and children,ITS NOT GAYS IT IS STRAIGHT MEN. Pdophilia is wrong no matter who does it and there is a law for it.. do not confuse apples and oranges..

  27. Ray says:

    Even the animals know and understand nature as it should be. You don’t see a mare having sex with a next mare or a stallion with a stallion or a cow with a cow or bull with a bull! Even the birds and the bees know and understand Gods’ purpose for mankind and all creatures great and small …. hell is what they desire so give it to them! Give them a place, a gulag…. like one had suggested for all the ‘crack heads’. Give them their own land to form their own nation. Here all these warp minds can converge and dwell together. They can continue to explore their immorality ………. and chase each other around with the rubber dicks. Whether they are attorneys, priests or bishops…….. whomever and from wherever their origin are or their professions might be! Let it be the next brainstorm invention for you who are politically aspiring!

  28. cg says:

    i love how people like to quote scripture and try to explain that homosexuality is not wrong..and in the process show their complete lack of understanding. if you are a christian or try to be one, its pretty straight forward, God does not like homosexual acts and those who do it will be destroyed. plain and simple. it also says God does not change, which means he does not change his mind on any of these issues. The Old Testament said it, so did the New Testament.

    Religion aside, homosexuality has brought nothing but moral decay to families, disease and other issues. No gay man can ever say they are completely happy, most turn to suicide or other weird behavior in addition to pedophillia.

  29. Abe says:

    Sofia: So if everyone is gay, and if they are so much better than anyone thats straight, who will bring forth more generations of children?? Every single person that comments here and the whole world knows in their heart, that being gay is WRONG!! And guess what, anyone gay trying to make any sexual advances at me, will NOT have a happy life, EVER!! It will come to the point where this stuff will be taught to our children and this will cause a very unhealthy influence. I would rather die than agree to this corrupted devilish satanic demon loving peope!!

    Im a male and am happily married to a female!!!!

  30. Bam says:

    U go MACAL…..especially the Catholic Church Bam si deh!! Haha biggest…..man dem da priests rape up the alter boys and who do what about it? No flippin body..so what is the big noise now? Everyone knows right from wrong and it if u were born that way the Bible talks about “Eunuchs” and be happy in our singleness. Make good choices people we are all born with that given gift.

  31. pp says:

    Sofia your sounds like Homosexuals are less problems and cause of low crime rate!! then they “should” legalized?
    so your logic is Homosexuals = less social problems = legalized
    Hey! Don’t get me wrong, that isn’t my point, my point is homosexual is against HUMAN NATURE!!

    again, if you try to mix up the heterosexuals are more problem, churchmen is not holy too,
    then why you try to separate homosexual from pedophilia or zoophila?

    to follow your logic should I say something like below these
    Homosexual = they have human right to sex with same gender
    Pedophilia = they have human right to sex with minor
    Zoophilia = they have human right to sex with animal
    since they are cause less social problems, why only homosexual should legalize?

  32. Robert2 says:

    Belize, keep on the STRAIGHT and narrow.

  33. Hill says:

    Why being gay is wrong? Because the bible say so? Bible also says do not lie, thief and have pre marital sex, I am sure everyone of u who is against the gay is following that too right. PP u r just an ignorant idiot, u don’t even state a valid point. What gay right have to do with pedophiles?

  34. ReVoLuTiOn says:

    @ Hill two rights does not make a wrong. LEave God out of it. You all just want to practise what is unnatural. Go ahead and do it and suffer the Physical and Spiritual consequence. But don’t harrass people to accept your nastiness.

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