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Jul 21, 2011

Church arms itself with attorney for Holy war against UNIBAM

Leroy Flowers

The Council of Churches has made it clear that it opposes the case filed by the United Belize Advocacy Movement (UNIBAM), which is challenging section fifty-three of the criminal code. UNIBAM is seeking to have the law declared as unconstitutional, claiming that it criminalizes sexual relationships between same gender couples. It’s an extremely controversial matter which has caught the attention of international organizations. The case is yet to be heard in the Supreme Court, but it is probably the most controversial topic in recent years for the council since decriminalization can open the doors even further to topics such as same sex marriages. The sanctity of centuries old church doctrine is at stake, and it was all being hotly discussed at the Council of Churches quarterly meeting last week. On Wednesday, the council released a formal position and the President of Council of Churches, Canon Leroy Flowers is speaking publically, arguably as defender of the faith.

Canon Leroy Flowers, President, Council of Churches

“We are of the view that the constitutional challenge, first of all, is unfortunate for Belize in that we have made it the very preamble of our constitution acknowledges the supremacy of God. Having said that, however, we are very much aware that the general public supports the churches’ point of view. However, we are of the view and we need to remind our members that in the courts, the law courts, that is not where the decision is made as to whether it is wrong or right and that’s very important for our members to understand. And while we respect the right of these people to go to court, we need our members to understand what is the churches’ position on this matter and that is that we do not, we would not want the law to be repealed. But if it is, the church would still not support that point of view. And that point of view is that that is an unnatural act, which is sin, which is contrary to the very word of God in the nature by which mankind is procreated. It is between a man and woman; it is not between two men and two women. That is an impossibility and, therefore, we need to understand without becoming emotionally hype because—and this is one of the things that we would like to appeal to our members. First of all, we need to be informed. For instance, many of the organizations who will be giving support to UNIBAM on this matter, I am certain that they would not be willing to readily accept their children engaging in this very act. And so it is a double sword as it were. On one hand, it’s because of the human rights issue but on the other hand, it’s a moral issue. For us, it’s a moral issue that we must be guided by the Holy Spirit and the word of God.”

Section fifty-three of the criminal codes says that “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” is punishable by imprisonment of up to ten years.

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35 Responses for “Church arms itself with attorney for Holy war against UNIBAM”

  1. rufus says:

    What about the men that do it to women? It doesn’t just criminalize same-sex acts, it also criminalizes men who like to explore women’s “back entrance”. I am sure there are many men who think it’s disgusting that men do that to each other, and then go home and do it to their women. As for the hypocrisy of many people who bring in the so-called religious arguments – how you could ever consider consensual relations between two adults more dangerous or evil or damaging to society than rape (between any sexes) or murder I don’t know, but the way some people react it seems that is what they believe. THe Bible says a lot of nonsense which we don’t follow or believe in now. Leviticus especially. Don’t pick and choose your Bible quotes to suit your own prejudices. I hope everyone in the Council of Churches is blessed with a kind, loving homosexual child, nephew or niece who is allowed to grow up without stigma and show them all that they are not evil, not unnatural, and just wanting to be loved for what they are like everyone else in this world.

  2. Richard M Blake says:

    Belizeans:
    We are living in a modern world and not a fantasy – the reality is that there are 3 gays/bi out of 5 men. In Belize, it has started to become more obvious due to the fact that the public is tolerant.
    A sin (for Church purposes) is when a gay man tries to become heterosexual..fights his inner emotions against his will and marries a woman. That individual is lying to himself, wife, family the church but not God. If the Churches believe that God made us all, then why question it! God made a gay man – GAY!

    Same sex marriages should be approved in this country. Look at the neighboring country of Mexico – they approved despite all the religious set backs and EXPENSES …. Dont you think everyone, particularly the church, should back down, use those funds for a better use. There are many poor people within the lenght and breath of this nation who would love to have a small box of groceries – the basics- than spending in court.

    LIVE AND LET OTHERS LIVE THEIR LIVES…..

    At this point in time, the Churches should be the last one to speaking about same sex marriages…..for respect, I will not mention the many reasons…

    Belizeans, whether or not we like it, we cant change people. Its part of life, same way other men more than one woman….. adultery…… so whats the case here?

    Let us not become the third world idiots people believe we are!!

    Respect for the ones who live their lives and careless what others have to say…as long as they respect each other and others around.

  3. Justice says:

    Sodom and Gomorrah, yes that is how Belize is heading. All teh crime, a dictator for a Pm, now this. Remember what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah.

  4. rufus says:

    Leviticus 20:9 If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
    20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
    25:44-45 “Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.”
    19:27 “Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.”
    11:12 “Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales; that shall be an abomination to you.”

    Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

    Yay so let’s stop eating lobster and conch and shrimp, kill everyone that cheats on their partner, and all buy some slaves – woo hoo!

  5. Belizean says:

    This is utterly ridiculous. I always thought being gay is about sexual preference not about procreation. Straight men wont turn gay because other men are doing the nasty in privacy. The church has got its priorities twisted. what happened to taking the side of the meek and poor etc etc, not picking battles with fruity tooties….

  6. Belizean says:

    @rufus…The bible makes for a wicked awesome read does it not?

  7. spanglish says:

    rufus o agree with you fully, i am still left with my mouth open at how these church leaders make a big issue of this group name UNIBAM yet whenever you hear over news about children, that is boys and girls sodomize,sexually abuse these church leaders have nothing to say, imagine and these are small innocent children being abuse, i disgust these church leaders with this type of attitude, and I know these so called churchy leaders do try to explore their wives back entrance sometime in their lives together, this are the people JESUS would say to them who ever don’t have a sin throw the first stone! HYPOCRATES!!!! you would be surprise some of these gay men will enter the kingdom of heaven easier than these so called CHURCH LEADERS

  8. trikz says:

    Personally I don’t mind what your sexual interest is…as long as you keep it in doors!…..remember kids see things…and I hate it when my child asks me why is that man dress like a girl….keep unu business indoor!

  9. CLEANHEART says:

    I WONDER WHY THE CHURCHES ARE MAKING A BIG ISSUE OF SAME SEX MARRIAGES, WHEN MOST OF THE CHURCHES NOT ONLY IN BELIZE BUT OVER THE WORLD HAS ALL KIND OF SINS WHITHIN THEM. THEIR HAS BEEN INSTANCES WHERE FATHER, PASTORS DEACON THAT SEXUALLY ABUSE BOYS, CHURCH LEADERS HAVING SEX WITH THEIR MEMBERS AND CHRISTIAN SISTERS, ADULTERY AND FORNICATION IS COMMON IN THE CHURCHES, WOW YOU NAME IT, THE BIBLE SAY AT THE END OF TIME EACH ONE OF US WILL GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD FOR EVERYTHING WE DID AND SAY. I AM SORRY BUT THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION, OK BUT FOR ALL THESE REASONS I NEVER ATTEND A CHURCH, THE CHURCH IS WITHIN ME, I AM NO ONE TO JUDGE, GOD IS THE JUDGE.

  10. Refinery says:

    Richard M. Blake/RUFUS
    Do you people know that you are blaspheming against my God by saying that he made men gay and the Bible says a lot of nonesence?Please be more careful when casting your aspersions on Him. God does not make people gay, and he does not want people to become Gay, but he loves every man, Gay or not.

    He wants any man Gay, Murderer, Thief, Substance Abusers, all of them to repent, and ask him to come into their hearts, and they will be wiped clean and become new creatures and are saved. Believe it or not, a Gay man will become straight when this happens, as they will be convicted by the Holy Spirit that what he is doing is wrong along with any other sin.

    Sorry if I seem to be preaching but a couple years ago i was a drunk, and didn’t care about anything other than fulfilling my desires in this world until i came to know my savior. It’s a beautiful feeling and everyone can also claim this inheritance to be the Son of a King. IT IS URS. Read Romans… it is clear. I’ll leave you with this.

    Romans 1:26-32 God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity

    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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    remember Christ died for Sinners and the Wicked, for us so that we may be reconciled unto Him through faith in Him. see below. Heaven is for anyone that receives it, not just a chosen few
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    Romans 5 :6-11

    6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

    9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! 10 For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! 11 Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

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    God bless you and may your eyes be opened. Much love

  11. Niks says:

    Ha ha rufus! Love it!

    Why can’t the church just stay out of people’s bedrooms? Love and let love! Religion always manages to be judgmental when the church itself has committed a multitude of sins throughout history. If we’re going to quote scripture then what about the lost gospel of Thomas. They decided to leave that one out of the bible, perhaps because it said things not in their favor.

    Jesus said, “Where there are three they are without God. And where there is only one, I say, I am with him. Lift the stone and there you will find me. Split the wood and I am there.”

    Basically, God is not found in elaborate places of worship – he is everywhere. Sorry church!

  12. marco says:

    The law should be repealed and the following included “… any man or woman engaging in carnal intercourse against the order of nature will be shot on the spot and person coming ten feet to even the remains of this gay will be castrated and sentenced to 10 years in prison.”

    The problem with accepting this rubbish is that the gay will want to sodomize even children but let me tell you the day that one even blinks at my kid. He will suffer the wrath of this man. We will have a holy war again and I will be in the forefront with the church!!!!

  13. marco says:

    Rufus, “a woman does not have a back entrance” ask any one of them that are decent. Do you have a back entrance?

  14. Haterz On My Back says:

    @ richard Blake. Are you serious? YOU ARE GAY!!! how on earth are you going to question God the creature of the heavens and the earth. boy i would slap the gaynes out off you. same sex is wrong and is a sin. ya’ll gay …….. need to pack up and head out of this country. We already have to deal with crime now we have to deal with same sex… GET THE …… OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. Refinery says:

    @Rufus, the Old testament Laws you posted are for Jews in that era. When a Law is broken, you must pay the penalty, whether you should be killed, sacrifice a lamb etc…. We need not live by these Laws anymore as the penalty has already been paid by the sacrifice of the Lamb of God.

    It’s easy to say, just let these people live how they want. But the reality is that it is of evil. If this is allowed then who is to say that Polygamy should be allowed, pedophilia, etc…. First this will be allowed, then after it will be something else, and this is the reason why our beautiful country which already runs amok and will just continue to get worse, it is a fact…. Life won’t get better in Belize until we stand firm in what it right and fight against wrong, or else it will be a living hell in our country

  16. Elgin Martinez says:

    We are definately living in the last days,i remember one time in Belize no young man wouldn’t even want any one to associate them with this type of sexual orientation.And for those of you who are trying to justify you cause.Please keep it behind close doors that’s all we’re saying.Furthermore what a man and his wife doe’s behind close doors is not a justification for this type of sexual orientation.Last but not least i am hoping that we can bring this kind of energy to the fight against the crime situation in the Jewel.It is in my opinion that this is how every law in the Jewel is suppose to be imlimented.Bring it to the people to have a debate about the issue.Not just come and stuff $#!% down our throat like Barrow is doing.That sain i am not in support of this law.

  17. DUTIED CITIZEN says:

    Marco I support you, Mose, Haterz On My back and all who do not support this Gay B S. It will cause the first INTERNAL Civil Conflict in Belize because they mock God and we will start that Holy War and Hang them high and bun them. We will recruit all the serving and Retired BDF, IMMIGRATION, CUSTOMS and Police as our Anti Gay Rebellion Force. The issue is not about a man taking his wife from behind that is their bloody business. The issue is corrupting an already corrupt society using same sex as the means targeting our innocent Children who will be and are exposed to them. They will not corrupt my kids I will gun them down like the Dogs they are. 99% of Gays in Belize want to be Gay being influenced by American propaganda started in San Pedro (Devil’s Island it will sink one of these days, mark my word). So call Gays have a choice. The population of Belize is too small for the high ratio of abnormality. The high rate of gayism in Belize is being induced it cannot be natural. WE WILL BUN THEM. The Natural laws of of God is the almighty law, which only he the ALMIGHTY can change, followed be the Constitution and the Laws of Belize. We need to call a meeting soon and establish our selves formally. WE MUST BUN THEM……. THIS IS THE LAST STRAW THAT WILL BREAK OUR BACK IF WE ALLOW IT. EVERY SPECIE ON EARTH THAT MULTIPLY HAS AN OPPOSITE SEX. NO 2 WOMAN AND 2 MAN CAN EVER NATURALLY PRODUCE AN OFF SPRING. ONE OF GOD’S BIGGEST MESSAGE TO MAN KIND WAS GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY. BUN THEM. WE MUST TAKE OUR INSPIRATION FROM GOD AND UNDERSTAND HIS WORKS. SODOM AND GOMORRAH. PROTECTING THE NATURAL LAW OF GOD AND MAN IS BELIZE’S LAST FRONTIER TO PEACE, HARMONY, TRANQUILITY AND DIVINE ASPIRATIONS.

  18. DUTIED CITIZEN says:

    CLEAN HEART IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT THOSE CHURCH MEMBERS DID WRONG. IT IS ABOUT THE MORAL PRINCIPLES OF GOD THEY WHO DID WRONG UNDER CHURCH SYSTEM WILL ANSWER TO GOD. IT IS ABOUT BELIZEANS CHANGING ITS MORAL FOUNDATION OF SOCIETY FROM WHAT GOD INSTILLS IN US TO WHAT AMERICA WANT US TO BELIEVE IN. THIS IS THE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM AT WORK. THE DECLINING WORLD SUPERPOWER (USA) IS CONVERTING THE GLOBAL LANDSCAPE THROUGH TRADE- CAPITALISM, WARS FOR ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL GAINS, MEDIA TO ACHIEVE COMMUNICATION DOMINATION TO DRIVE THEIR PHILOSOPHY AROUND THE GLOBE FOR WEALTH AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY ON EARTH WHICH YOU CANNOT TAKE BEYOND THE GRAVE NEITHER TO HELL NOR TO HEAVEN.

  19. somiah says:

    John 3:16 is one of the most recognize scripture of the Bible… God created humanity and love what He made, He said it was good! then something happen that cause human to rebel against their creator…He then made a way for them to come back in connection with Him, but as we can see, we still have the majority of His creation choose to continue going their way without Him… The Bible refer to them as children of disobedience…

    The Book of Jude ( Jude Jesus brother ) speaks of false teachers that emerges, or when the truth of God is attacked,it is then time to fight for the faith…Only Believers who are in shape can answer the summons…. Jude reminds us about God’s past dealings with unbelieving Israel, disobedient angels, and wicked Sodom and Gomorrah… In the face of such danger, Believers should not be caught off guard. The challenge is great! not popular, ( going against the stream ) but our Great God is more than able to keep us from stumbling….

    Jude 16 -19… There are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. but you beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the Apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would WALK ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN UNGODLY LUSTS…THESE ARE SENSUAL PERSONS WHO CAUSE DIVISIONS, NOT HAVING THE SPIRIT….
    The Word of God continue to say for us to keep ourselves in the love of God looking for His mercy onto eternal life and to have compassion on some making a distinction, but on others save with fear, pulling them out of the fear ( hell ) hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.

    It is not His will that none should perish, but their will be a lot perishing because of being children of disobedience, wanting your own way….

  20. DUTIED CITIZEN says:

    spanglish yo the attack the man and not the issue. In Belize we cannot stop being personal. Stop worry about the Church leader our moral fibre and morals are under attack. Not what preachers do with their wives and the sins of church throughout history. It is how Belize will change. I agree when our Children are sodomized, killed, abused, injured, mistreated the Church and all leaders and organizations in Belize need to speak out on the issue.

  21. Ana says:

    Romans 1: 24 to 28 – God created mankind and HE loves us all. God will not contradict HIS word. Homosexuality is unnatural. It is not from GOD.

  22. belizeanpride says:

    REFINERY

    I totally agree with you bro and Amen to the Almighty God If anybody wants to live a descent life read the bible the Holy Spirit is gonna change you not the church. thechurch will not save you but it’s the way you live you life infront of the Almighty God that makes you be graded as sinner or not.
    Blessing to you all and hope the Lord enlight every single blogger who plans to comment on this issue.

  23. Gustav says:

    This marks the first battle in Belize about an agenda, with a lot of money and international support behind it, to educate / indoctrinate SCHOOLCHILDREN to accept that homosexuality is normal and acceptable behavior.

    There will always be gays, many because they were molested as children, some “born that way,” but I think it is not natural, not what God itnends, and not what our children should be taught.

    Hate the sin, love the sinner.

  24. Concerned says:

    Any of those here who claim to be Christians should question themselves as to whether it is truly Christian to judge and hate those who are not like them….oh but are they so different. Doesn’t God say that we are all sinners – so why is a gay man’s sin worse than a heterosexual’s. Sin is sin. True Christians preach and practice love and acceptance of all people. Evil people who try to pretend to be Christians but do so very badly as evidenced by their hateful acts are the people responsible for perverting the Christian philosophy and beliefs. You should be ashamed of yourselves. All humans were created by God and should be respected. God created gay people and if you don’t like it than talk to God about it – don’t pick on and bully other people!

  25. Concerned says:

    As for you Ana – who are you to tell God which of his creations are not of him? Shameful!

  26. Roy Yates says:

    The Bible was my only frame for religeous refference and conviction for the first forty years of my life, because I was thought that its contents should not be question, such as Adam and Eve family been the only human family on this planet; yet Cain, after he killed his brother Abel went to the land of Nod and found a wife;???????.I also saw that it was (is) filled with the expression of the wrath of God, yet I read in it that Jesus said his principles of love and mercy is the same as that of His Father: and that His Father is also the Father of all the human race.And the real clincher is that we are to love and forgive our enemies. But the old testament talk about eye for an eye.

    Even when he was on the cross in pain beyond human imagination His words to His Father on behalf enemies was, forgive them for they know not what they do. Ignorance and fear have caused human beings to do some diobolical things to our human brothers/sisters. I wonder what Jesus would say about homosexuals if he was here on earth? I discovered in very extensive information about Jesus that is not in the Bible, that on one occation he rebuke his diciples because of talking down to a woman that was in the sex trade, and he expressed His understanding of her condition, and that same woman later on became a leader of the His gospel.

    With regards to Jesus’s and human sexuality, I have discovered in extensive information about his questions and answer session with the deciples, that question of sexual nature was the only question that he refused to address when asked. It is so ludicrous, as far as I’m consern, to see the clergy arming themselves with human prejudicial laws to so call defend God. These folks need to come out of the dark ages. I’m not condoning nor definding homosexuality, because I believe that its too complex a matter for someone like myself who can’t understand how someone is sexually attractive to the same gender.

    Only truth set mankind free, andI I have found out that truth is hard to find in mainstream religion with its fears and out dated dogmas. The hard facts are that religionist and politicians have caused the most suffering to the human race. I don’t care who does not agree with my statement, because I have suffecient historical data to back up my conclusion. The gospel of Jesus is not built on legalistic dogmas, this is what got him in trouble with the Jews; his gospel is about spiritual groweth in accomplishing higher levels of spiritual desernments. In conclusion,my advise to the Clergy is this: You all will create more harm to the society that what you are trying to rectify; the souls of these individuals belong to God that will make the final decision on their enternal destiny.. God hath not giveth to us the spirit of fear, but of love, of power and a sound mind.

  27. Liberty and Freedom says:

    Let Belize be different than the rest of the world. Homosexuality and lesbianism are sins against Almighty God. If you look at the rest of the world, where this type of behavior is accepted, it has caused AIDS and destroyed the family unit. Are you supposed to tell the children that Luis has two Daddies or two Mommies? The Bible lists Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve. The next thing they will want is to prey upon your children. Look at this website http://www.nambla.org/ – just make sure you do not eat dinner first. These people have an agenda that will tear apart the core foundations of this beautiful nation. These people attack the church and anything that is pure and good. Most of them are atheists.

  28. Concerned says:

    Sure Liberty and Freedom. Let Belize be different. Why not allow slavery too? Let’s show the world that Belize can be a narrow minded, bigoted and ignorant country that tramples over human rights? That will show them won’t it? It will show them what a Christian country can do. It can exclude and abuse it’s citizens. That’s something we can all be proud of. You’ve never sinned? Your sin is a ‘better’ sin than someone else’s? Belize has one of the highest AIDS figures in the world, so that is something else to be proud of huh? Belize, by banning homosexuality, has managed to have some of the worst problems with AIDS anywhere. Yay! Your ideas are really working well for Belize. Plenty of very healthy and successful children have had two daddies. Oh, but our prisons in Belize are filled with children with NO daddy. But that’s OK, no daddy would be much better than two loving parents in your mind? You really have thought this through logically huh? Given that most sexually abused children are preyed upon by their own parents or close relatives and that most pedophiles are heterosexual, I don’t think you have much to worry about. Oh but no…let’s make up stories and revel in the fear we create, rather than educated ourselves and at the very least be able to present a point of view that contains facts and real information. So, people loving one another will tear apart the core foundations of Belize. Damn! If we could do that with love, instead of hatred, which you spew as a false Christian, the world would be a much more interesting place. I’ll definitely be praying for you Liberty and Freedom. I’ll be praying that you one day learn what Christianity really means and maybe you’ll learn that having a pure and loving heart is what is important. Meanwhile, you just keep ignoring your own sins and focus on everyone else.

  29. Richard M. Blake says:

    Refinery:

    What an ingorant comment you made! Gay, Murders, Thief….Jeez…. you are already categorizing them as if they had done somthing wrong…..gay people did not ask to become gay…nor desired to become gay….. SO I DONT SEE WHY THEY HAVE TO REPENT…FOR WHAT?

    And I totally agree with Rufus…I hope that all the haters or church oriented (only when convenient to them) have gay/lesbian family members…… Im pretty sure that many if not all the men who have wifes ask at least once to try with their wifes…as for Church Leaders – you all should just keep your cool and leave this behind….there are so many people in Belize, who have been sexually molested by Church Leaders….They should just show up and open their mouths so all those who lots to say, would just hide underground…shame on you guys…. THOU SHALL NOT JUDGE….. JAJAJA…very ironic…isnt it?

    And speaking about Decent Lifes…What does the word decent means these days….? based on what….? on Social Standards….. not being judged by the ones who sin the most? Decent nowadays.. means humans who mean good in this work, who respect others and who give a willing hand to those in need….. thats a good person bottom line……

    You know Rufus, this are things that are shocking to me…. when people put God’s name in Vain…. Look at Church Leaders my friend…dont they like royal….Dont they have more money that we do…. please….. I dont really want to say bad things of these people…but you see… You work, I work, your kids work….caz we need to eat…. Then here are we who go to church, give our dues to church for them to turn around and critize people…..Ridiculous…….

  30. A_Gay_Man says:

    Its amazing to me how the church is ready to cast judgment and say they are not doing so. They hide behind their bibles and think they are better than the rest of humanity when in fact they are the SAME and some are even worse [*COMPLETELY Judging here & i am not hiding behind any bibles*]

    I grew up within Christianity, both my parents are Christians. I went to a catholic primary school, a catholic high school as well as a catholic 6th form! Now tell me this, why am i an atheist & GAY? Religion does nothing but divide people. I can understand that people need some thing to believe in but must they make it hard for EVERYONE if it does not reflect their arbitrary moral practices. I grew up with only brothers, no sisters. How could i have not been born gay? i mean, my brothers are the most masculine guys you can ever meet.

    *Sigh* The Church Needs to take a chill pill and come out of the stone age. They need to realize that homosexuality has been in existence since the dawn of man. Even before there was the preconceived notion of Religion & ‘God’.

    They are driving people away from their own countries mein. Look at Sir Lanka, they kill homosexuals on the spot because of their religion. Also in other middle eastern countries.They use the same bible the Christians use! Not only there but in JAMAICA! POLICE OFFICERS KILL THE HOMOSEXUALS SIMPLY FOR BEING GAY! Take about Caribbean Machismo! Now tell me if that isn’t injustice. Belize already has a high crime rate, and adding hate crime will only make things worse! Some of the brightest and talented people are homosexuals [guys and girls]. How can Belize get a semblance of growth when these incredibly hypocritical institutions are chasing the people away FROM THEIR OWN COUNTRIES?! Its is absurd and completely dumbfounding!

    & for all those that will say I’ll go to hell please save it because i don’t Believe in such a place.

    Sincerely,
    A_Gay_Man

  31. marco says:

    Turn away from your wicked ways, that is all the Almighty ask of you. You can turn away from it because all you have done is feed your mind convincing yourself that you were made like that and that is a blatant lie, you are not. Everyone in this world faces challenges and we need to confront them, but if we let it take upon us it will devour. Being gay does not mean that you cannot change it, of course you can, it was set before you for you decide what you want but does not mean it is right.

  32. Felipe Cayo says:

    The law refers to “carnal knowledge against the order of nature.” Why aren’t naturalists being consulted to resolve this argument? There are over 1500 species documented to have same sex behavior and Belize is rich in many of them. It seems homosexuality is right in line with nature. Or are all those penguins going to hell too?

    If marriage is about procreation don’t forget to prohibit menopausal women from marrying, have the government check your proposed husband’s sperm count, and consider nullifying all opposite-sex marriages that have not produced children within 3 years. And outlaw divorce as well. In the meantime if you don’t want gay men to marry, don’t marry one.

  33. Homo habilis says:

    The bible is a farce, when will you people come out of the Stone Ages and stop quoting that book.

  34. Furlong usher says:

    Hello,
    I stand strong with the christian society, we will not entertained the gay right movement to impact our society or our family. Our people need to realize the christian is the most powerful force in the world, the only time the battle has ever been lost is when they choose to fight without God. To hear so many educated people speak the way they do about God make you understand what the bible speaks about when it tell you about these educated fool. I love all my people in my country but i love God more and we are soldier of almighty i am prepare to war with the many to keep the integrity of my country and of God.
    To those who want to war against God and his people i pray God have mercy on your soul. That is the best i can do for you if that is your choice. I will protect my rear end and those of the people i am given the authority over to protect.

    May God bless you all

  35. Alan says:

    God is organised crime’s most lucrative confidence scam. It is human self aggrandizement to think that a human-like persona could do a better job of producing all of nature (including humans), than all of nature does producing and reproducing itself at every moment. Many priests don’t believe what they preach, but they must pretend for the sake of money and power, the scam.

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