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May 18, 2011

Church joins Court Case in which UNIBAM wants gay rights

A case filed against the Attorney General’s Office by the United Belize Advocacy Movement (UNIBAM) and its Executive President, Caleb Orosco, has grown into a major cultural battle, involving international lawyers and now, a group of local churches. On Tuesday an application was filed by the Catholic, Anglican and Evangelical Churches, to join the case as interested parties. Attorneys Rodwell Williams SC, Eamon Courtenay SC, Michel Chebat, Jackie Marshalleck, and Chris Coye filed the application on behalf of the churches. They are going against UNIBAM, which is seeking to have section fifty-three of the criminal code declared as unconstitutional. The section reads that “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” is punishable by imprisonment of up to ten years. That law, according to UNIBAM, criminalizes homosexual relationships. And while the government and churches have some of Belize’s top attorneys on their side, UNIBAM has the backing of powerful organizations including the International Commission of Jurists, the Commonwealth Lawyers Association and the Human Dignity Trust, which have also joined the case as interested parties. A notable on their legal team is Lord Peter Goldsmith QC, the former Attorney General for England and Wales. The organizations have filed an affidavit claiming that the law is “incompatible with the rule of law and with respect for international law and international obligations enshrined in the Belize Constitution.” UNIBAM is being represented by Attorney Lisa Shoman SC while Attorney Godfrey Smith SC is on the team representing the international parties. A date has not yet been announced for the start of trial in the Supreme Court.

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66 Responses for “Church joins Court Case in which UNIBAM wants gay rights”

  1. Zeena Wills says:

    Yes Justice Stan seems to be very much gay from the time it shows his illiterate and charlotant behavior saying God use to hang out with Gays what a moron talking about stupidity to the fullest and talking about people dont know about God.God forgive u

  2. CHRIST'S KID says:

    “Heavenly Father, in the name of your Son Jesus Christ, I come to You once again on behalf of my beloved country of Belize. It pains my heart immensely to see how horribly far into the pit of destruction we have fallen, because we as a nation have turned our backs on You. Father I ask Your forgiveness for the sins of my people, because You are a God who is faithful and true to Your word. You promised Lord that if [Your] people who are called by Your name would humble themselves and pray and seek Your face and turn from their wicked ways, then You would hear from heaven and would forgive their sin and would heal their land. So dear Father, right now I stand in the gap for my beloved country and people. I come to You in humility and ask that You would forgive our sin and heal our land. Help us to return to the righteousness in which we once believed. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen!

    People of Belize, REPENT!!!! Just as it was in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, so too shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man. Just as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of Christ’s return. The signs of the times are glaringly evident. Return to God through His son Jesus Christ!

  3. The Message says:

    Leviticus 18 (New Living Translation)
    Forbidden Sexual Practices
    1 Then the Lord said to Moses, 2 “Give the following instructions to the people of Israel. I am the Lord your God. 3 So do not act like the people in Egypt, where you used to live, or like the people of Canaan, where I am taking you. You must not imitate their way of life. 4 You must obey all my regulations and be careful to obey my decrees, for I am the Lord your God. 5 If you obey my decrees and my regulations, you will find life through them. I am the Lord.

    6 “You must never have sexual relations with a close relative, for I am the Lord.

    7 “Do not violate your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; you must not have sexual relations with her.

    8 “Do not have sexual relations with any of your father’s wives, for this would violate your father.

    9 “Do not have sexual relations with your sister or half sister, whether she is your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born into your household or someone else’s.

    10 “Do not have sexual relations with your granddaughter, whether she is your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, for this would violate yourself.

    11 “Do not have sexual relations with your stepsister, the daughter of any of your father’s wives, for she is your sister.

    12 “Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister, for she is your father’s close relative.

    13 “Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, for she is your mother’s close relative.

    14 “Do not violate your uncle, your father’s brother, by having sexual relations with his wife, for she is your aunt.

    15 “Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law; she is your son’s wife, so you must not have sexual relations with her.

    16 “Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife, for this would violate your brother.

    17 “Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. And do not take[a] her granddaughter, whether her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, and have sexual relations with her. They are close relatives, and this would be a wicked act.

    18 “While your wife is living, do not marry her sister and have sexual relations with her, for they would be rivals.

    19 “Do not have sexual relations with a woman during her period of menstrual impurity.

    20 “Do not defile yourself by having sexual intercourse with your neighbor’s wife.

    21 “Do not permit any of your children to be offered as a sacrifice to Molech, for you must not bring shame on the name of your God. I am the Lord.

    22 “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.

    23 “A man must not defile himself by having sex with an animal. And a woman must not offer herself to a male animal to have intercourse with it. This is a perverse act.

    24 “Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, for the people I am driving out before you have defiled themselves in all these ways. 25 Because the entire land has become defiled, I am punishing the people who live there. I will cause the land to vomit them out. 26 You must obey all my decrees and regulations. You must not commit any of these detestable sins. This applies both to native-born Israelites and to the foreigners living among you.

    27 “All these detestable activities are practiced by the people of the land where I am taking you, and this is how the land has become defiled. 28 So do not defile the land and give it a reason to vomit you out, as it will vomit out the people who live there now. 29 Whoever commits any of these detestable sins will be cut off from the community of Israel. 30 So obey my instructions, and do not defile yourselves by committing any of these detestable practices that were committed by the people who lived in the land before you. I am the Lord your God.”

  4. papa says:

    I see hate is alive and well. One person says he loves his homosexual family. Really! One would think otherwise. Have the hatemongers truly engaged a gay person to understand his heart. How can all this hate be good for the christian soul? Gees, the fear-mongeering while not surprising, certainly doesnt live up to the notion that you should love your neighbor as thyself. Please be reminded all that gay people have been here before the case started and will be here after the case ends.

  5. Dan says:

    The thief (devil) cometh to kill, to steal and to destroy. But I (Jesus) have come that they may have life and have it much more abundantly. (John 10:10)
    We either choose life by going with God and His righteous demands or right under our noses the devil will continue to destroy our land until nothing is left.
    Crime, violence, drug trafficking, unwanton killing and wasting of the future generation, poverty and now sodomy and gay marriages? We must stand and kick the devil and his agents out of our beloved land before he destroys our land and future. This is NOT the time to attack the church – besides, the church is actually not an organization but you and I. Now is the time to come together and stand for what is right and put the devil to shame. Now is the time to unite regardless of our religious affiliations. Let’s put denominations aside and fight for the common goal – enthroning Jesus back in our homes, communities, schools and country. With God ALL things are possible. Let us arise and resist the vices of the devil and with God on our side, surely victory is won!
    God is the solution and His Word the Bible is the road map to LIFE! Belize is for Jesus!

  6. Dan says:

    Leviticus 18:22 (NLT)
    22 “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin, both of them have committed an abomination.
    Leviticus 20:13
    13 (NLT) “If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.
    Genesis 19 (Read the whole chapter)
    Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed

  7. my 2cents says:

    It really makes me laugh to read all these hypocritical comments.You all talk about this is morally wrong. How many of you are screwing someone else’s wife or husbands? How many of you are thieves and effing liars? How many of you are murderers or protecting the litttle bastard murderers in your families? He who is without sin can cast the first stone. Yeah I said it…AND? Just by posting all your nonsense up here makes you all no better than gay people because you are so Biblically incorrect. The bible also says “DO NOT JUDGE OTHERS FOR THAT IS THE JOB FOR THE BIG MAN ABOVE” so remind me please, who the hell died and made all you idiots “GOD”.Hmmm!…yeah, you jacka$$es needs to do some deep thinking before you answer that question. When you can answer that, you have every right to come back up here and judge these people. That’s the reason why Belize and the world are over populated with perverts and child molester because idiots like you all refuse to let them be themselves. As far as i am concerned, most of you up here are idiots but you cannot help being yourselves, well its the same way homosexuals can’t help being themselves. I can’t help who I am and neither can you. Keep convincing yourselves that you are holier than thou and the Almighty. I swear people really believe that the only sin they will get punished for is being homosexual and a murderer. Anything else wrong that they do will be forgiven and buy them a space in heaven.Well think again. Most of you all read and Interpret the bible to suit you when in reality you don’t have a clue what the hell you are talking about, but in a rush to judge others.Of all people that shouldn’t talk about holy issues are the priests because a lot of them are the cause of homosexual behaviors. They mess with these innocent little boys and then turn around and pull a stunt like this. If that is all they know from a very young age what the hell else do you expect from them? ” Yo kaw plant kawn and dah peas yo wah reap “.The bible said to go forth and multiply but the idiots abstain for life. Or so they claim so before you all rush to follow behind a priest a$$, please remember that they are sinners too. They’re not perfect by any means.This day and age 90% of families have a little fruit cup as a family member or have one coming in the future so don’t cut off your nose to spite your face as yet.Thank you, have a good night y’all….PEACE!

  8. So Jah Seh! says:

    Unbelievable and unacceptable! We need not have this discussion about ….. business. It’s a nasty and disgusting act of immorality, a man is a man identified by his manhood and should be coupled with a woman, his opposite. ….. has its purpose and that is not for sexual pleasure between two males (or females who may be gay, but not as disgusting). These homos have lost their identity as males and they mentor young boys in thinking they are gay or it is ok to be so. This is a mental misunderstanding of ones being/ identity which we should not condone as normalcy and it must be treated as a mental disorder. We need not change our laws to accommodate or debate an illness; put it in the hands of medical practitioners where it belongs. Guys/gays, you need counsel about !@#$$y as we men call it, wake up to your identity because real men will not accept your ‘ Business’ STAN you need to let your relative know where you stand if your straight, don’t be classifying us PROUD BEIZEANS as third world because those FIRST WORLD UNGODLY PEOLE will lead you to hell fire. Psalm 1 state, “Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly.” Give that to the first world advocates of evil and disorder.

    SOS

  9. Tracker says:

    I wander if people in our country understand th crisis of our values and morality. A nation that doesn’t fear God will perish. This nation is built on families and this issue is a direct attack on the family structure. Does this matter to us? Channel 5 needs to take a poll just like it does with other issues.

  10. Roy Yates says:

    Even though I cannot understand how a man finds another male to be sexually attractive, I often times wonder why a non gay person would decide to become gay knowing what they will have to indure from public scorn day in and day out. As we know many of such persons have been killed because of their orientation. Some years ago some of my colleagues and myself had a coversation on the subject, and I asked my colleagues which of them would do something if they knew that it would cause disruptionin in their family structure? One of my colleague responded that he really wanted to marry a black female but he did not marry her due to his family objection to the idea.

    With such an answer from one of my colleague that was true to himself,while the others did not respond, I use that as my point of contension that gay person just did not mentally chosed their sexual orientation; that the human orientation is far more complex than black and white. I have known men and women who, in spite of them knowing that they were attracted to the same sex strongly, still got married and produced childrend and after a while they had to abodon the family because the daily mental stress of not been whom they really wanted to be was to much bear.

    With due rispect to the BIble wavers and the fact that I have a great respect for the Bible up to a point, I would suggest that you folks do a lot more serious research in human history and cultures. It was the folks that truly believe that the Bible was the word of God totally, that gave Jesus a hard time and finally contributed to his death. If you all are serious about finding truth you will know that the Bible is flaud, with lots of contradictions. Only truth set man free. The Romans and Greeks bath houses for men were very previlant in Jesus’s time on earth, and no way in all of the recorded doings and sayings of Jesus’s ministry have seen where he got into conversation of a sexual nature.

    I my humble opinion, the Bible as a frame of reference for such a delicate subject is not trust worthy. What I can’t rationalize is how the Catholic and AnglicanClergys have the bold face to get in on this issue. Has anyone to this forum have been following international news about the Bishops and Priest around the world that have been prosecuted by the hundreds for molesting boys.There is just too much hypocracy in these churches. The churches are loosing relivance in the lives of the masses because they stuck in one gear, and they have nothing Spiritualy new to bring to the masses that are hungry for real spiritual bread. The same old dogmas, while everything elce is changing around them.

    Many of the Scandenavian countries as well as Portugal stay out people’s sex lives, realizing that its a waste of time and only contribute to division and hate in the society. In the final analysis a person soul is between them and the “”One First Cause” the Universal Father that Jesus exemplyfied so marvolously, and said, to see him with the eye of the spirit is to see the Father; and that His Father is the same Father of all mankind. He also say, whosoever will may come to him.

  11. BT says:

    The bible also says you should kill your neighbour if you see him working on Sunday…. remember that all you biblical scholars next time you catch your neighour chopping his yard, fixing his house, or washing his car on the sabbath. Let’s see how far “God’s Law” gets you in court.

  12. John Boy,Carson,Ca says:

    On one hand Belizeans are supporting murder by the State.That is what the death penalty is.The last time I read the bible it stated that murder is a sin.You can used the bible to justify anything.That is why in the greatest country in the world we seperate church from state,or other wise you would have some people using the bible to oppress blacks,women,gay,or any group they do not like.When a person can not bring an intelligent debate to the table they bring up the bible.Not everyone believe in your bible.In a free society they have the right not to believe.That is what freedom is all about.

  13. it' only love says:

    From what bible did you get these quotes from, because no bible i have ever read his the word homosexuality in it. the verse say “A man shall not lay with man as he does with a woman.” And it refers to unwilling sexual acts, i.e. rape. Not consensual sex between men.

  14. Victoria says:

    This is just ridiculous! Gay people should have basic human rights. This law should be taken out of the books. People really?? Bringing Bible quotes to make your case when in Belize so many sins are committed everyday. For goodness sakes, the past Prime Minister is a polygamist. Why don’t you go talk to him abut “Thou shall not commit adultery.” Also so many Belizeans having premarital sex. Why don’t you condemn that? So many Belizeans take the Lord’s name is vain. Also many break other commandments by stealing and lying. You should not be the one to judge gay people. Let that be up to God and them. Until that time, they deserve this basic human rights!!!

  15. DMT says:

    Just another example of Belize managing to remain in the dark ages. The education system has been in the hands of the church for years and where has that got the kids…….for the majority, mostly nowhere.
    This issue seems to have been hijacked into a religious debate, when in fact god and the bible have no relevance to life at all. Karl Marx said it best; “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.” If you need a book to tell you wrong from right then you are lost already.

  16. Soh Jah Seh says:

    You state it correctly DMT .” If you need a book to tell you wrong from right then you are lost already”. Most things in this world comes with a book as a guide to its basic functions, without that book you would not be able to operate nor repair that piece of equipment and that is the purpose of our Bible, its a guide to life and true living, without it you walk in darkness (mentally blind) and that is what most people here are talking about.

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