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Jun 14, 2017

No Cabinet Intervention, says Perdomo, Even Though Ministers Went to Department

Carlos Perdomo

Carlos Perdomo was the first Minister of Immigration and Nationality appointed under the Barrow administration in 2008. His time pre-dates somewhat the Auditor General’s Report, but Senator Mark Lizarraga seemed to try to establish through his questioning that Perdomo’s alleged permissiveness was a factor in the recent “culture of corruption” in the Department, which the ex-Minister says he did not see. When asked whether he drove policy in the Department, Perdomo said he could not recall any intervention by Cabinet and said he never personally knew that fellow Ministers go to the Department to push their own agendas.

 

Mark Lizarraga, Senator, Business Community

“As Minister of Nationality, Immigration and passport, did you drive the formation of any policy on Immigration, passports and nationality?”

 

Carlos Perdomo, Former Minister of Immigration and National Security

“It’s been a few years since I’ve been in that post. I don’t recall what policies we did, but whenever we would have meetings it would be myself, the C.E.O., maybe the Director and other people, but I don’t recall exactly what we did; it’s been a long time.”

 

Mark Lizarraga

“As a member of Cabinet, at any time did the Cabinet say to you, “Minister Perdomo, we know that so-and-so-and-so is happening at the Ministry, we want you to straighten it out?”

 

Carlos Perdomo

“Except for the case that I mentioned last week, I don’t recall anything like that.”

 

Mark Lizarraga

“Cabinet never expressed any concerns about the goings-in that Department, except for that case?”

 

Carlos Perdomo

“Not in the way you are framing it; I’m saying just when there were discovered irregularities, like that Airport incident that I mentioned last week.”

 

Mark Lizarraga

“[Cabinet Secretary], there are ample cases highlighted in the cases before us, where other Ministers were seen in the department of which you were in charge; you agree with that, that Ministers would frequent the Department?”

 

Carlos Perdomo

“Well, my office is not at the Immigration Department, so if I heard, I heard; but I wouldn’t see them – of course the report talks about that – but I’m not involved with that, I am away from that office.”

 

Mark Lizarraga

“I’m not saying you were involved in anything, Minister, I’m only saying did you know at the time that your colleagues were frequenting offices that you were in charge of?”

 

Carlos Perdomo

“No, I didn’t know.”

 

Mark Lizarraga

“You didn’t know?”

 

Carlos Perdomo

“No.”

 

Mark Lizarraga

“Any at all?”

 

Carlos Perdomo

“I heard about it, but I did not know until I read the report.”

 

Mark Lizarraga

“And when you heard about it?”

 

Carlos Perdomo

“When I read the report, years after.”

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